re: size - one male appears to be at the bottom of the standard but the ownere has not measured to confirm if he stayed small or not.
Libby the female I kept here is 23" barely. Most seemed to settled into the 24-26 range and are around 55-65 lbs.
The are fun dogs to have around - goofy personalities which I just adore.
The suprise of the litter was that a few ended up getting a little wire in their coat and 1 is pretty clearly wire - Wire is dominant and dad was out of a wire father and smooth mother. The interesting thing is that it was not obvious until after 5 months. Now that I know what to look for - next litter will be easier to identify.
8 babies in Vancouver if anyone is looking - LOL