Screaming must stop!

Moved Behavioral Issues

  • @nancyss - I would say this is true for 99% of puppies placed at that age... especially at an early age and depending how they were raised.


  • @mikesull said in Screaming must stop!:

    "he doesn’t enter the bedroom etc. he’s a dog", "tons of love and commitment, etc. not 24-7", "my way or highway"

    He's a baby... where are your expectations at? Realistically, what did you think having a 2-3 month old dog would be like?


  • I will admit that I am not the best at this either...
    Young dog, so scary to be alone: Let's make it more fun! Good stuff happens when you go away (like the washroom)... so get the good treats out! I used to throw quite a few Cherios or kibbles on the floor to keep my dogs busy in a positive way.
    Clicker training is good for Basenjis. Train him to go into his crate by himself but don't close the door yet. Teaching 'down time' is important and takes time.
    Tire that Basenji brain with training.
    It is difficult because Basenjis are pack dogs. They do their own thing but do not like being alone.
    Good luck!


  • Hi - all has improved dramatically with the crating rules. Its just 100% better and structured vs me breaking every rule so he didnt cry. Now he cries some but already slowed that down. Today he ran on beach for an hour and was so tired i had to carry him home lol.


  • @mikesull My first B would scream the house down whenever he was in the crate alone. Neighbors told me it sounded like a small child being tortured or something terrible. Finally solved the problem with a second basenji, she kept him company and he was fine with that, no screaming.

    Second B was fine so long as another B was in a separate cage close to her.

    Third B just sits in the crate alone and stares at the door waiting for you to come back lol, (we set up a camera to monitor him).

    One thing that was consistent, all three are far better off staying alone in a room on their own napping while you do stuff BUT only after they are about six years old. Seems 6-8 is the mellowing age.

    So I guess all are different.


  • @mikesull "Today he ran on beach for an hour and was so tired i had to carry him home lol."

    A tired Basenji is a good basenji, rule #1 in my book.

    I look at it that I enter a contract with each dog, they get lots of walks, play, good food, warm sunny sun room, sleep on bed, worshiped like kings and queens. In return they don't drive me too crazy and when I am really serious, they obey me lol.


  • Sorry Mike about the hostility you feel on this forum. I have figured out they just can't help it. Lots of Basenji advocates that are experts and I think their dogs may be more important than people. It is a good idea to read others questions and learn from that rather than putting yourself out there to be chopped up.
    I researched too but still had no idea what I was actually getting into. We went to puppy school and then I hired a private trainer who had lots of Basenji experience....it is hard to get through the first year. But trust me it will be worth it to persevere.
    I used a crate, and no it has not been in my room near the bed ever. She started in the laundry room at night only and I used daytime gates so I could control her location with me. Also I bought a playpen type fence to be on the deck.
    Now she is 3 yrs old and we are down to one gate and a fenced back yard. She has a bed on the sofa and in the guest room, and on the back deck.
    She basically has the run of the house minus the bedrooms. (Well she thinks the guest room is her room).
    I am sure you are doing lots of things right. What I find with this breed is that they are so smart you have to develop dog psychology. They must understand that you are the boss without you raising your voice or hand against them. I have developed a routine and it seems to work for us. For example while you are establishing that you make the rules don't put your dogs dish down until you begin your dinner. Small thing but once she learned that we eat first and she must wait until I put her dish down that made me the boss. But you need to be consistent. She gets it and she sits licking her lips as she sees her dish on the counter. There is no jumping or drama about it anymore.
    This process of you being a dependable and caring provider that your dog can predict behavior from you will pay off.
    I have had times of discouragement too. I think if you limit the crating to when you can't be there and keep your life in a predictable pattern you will find the dog fitting in and settling down.


  • get a recording from the breeder of the dogs in his kennel when they are all crated up and talking to each other-play that while you are 'out'. a little young for a basenji to 'leave home'?


  • May not work for everyone but the best thing I did was to throw that crate out the door. Afterwards Sarge seemed to be more relaxed and adjusted. Now 5 years later and no crate in sight things are great. Just give him a spot on the back of the sofa to look the window and he's happy.


  • Basenjis sleep with you or you pay the price. We crated our pup for a while short periods but now only for behavior issues. We still have the crate and leave it open where we put her toys she is free to go in and out we seldom use it now she is 3. Basenjis are people dogs and need lots of attention and exercise.


  • @jhewell
    Re-think the use of the crate. I also got rid of the crate - my B was crate trained but I like to say I “de-crate trained her”. She has free reign of the house and has never been destructive. I wanted her to be free w/out restrictions. Now fast forward and she’s now 15 years old with some issues - wish I had kept her crate trained because there have been some situations where it would now be good for her SAFETY to be in a crate, Learn from my mistakes - hind sight is 20/20.


  • I have a 9 month old who wanted to follow us everywhere at first. It was a lot easier once she was old enough to safely climb the stairs.

    As she has matured we are finding that she often chooses to stay in the other room or in her (open) crate as long as the door isn't closed and she can come and find us if she needs us.

    Looking back it was quite a short space of time that she had this intense need, but it was hard not knowing when it would end. Letting go and allowing her to follow us made it a lot less stressful.


  • The other benefit of allowing them to follow is exposure to different sights and sounds such as hair dryers etc, so they will be less likely to be fearful of them later on.


  • Thanks all. How about feeding? Breeder left food out all day for the puppies and his adult dog. They seemed to nibble all day and not over eat. I have kept same so far - but maybe better to change to 3x a day?


  • @jkent said in Screaming must stop!:

    The other benefit of allowing them to follow is exposure to different sights and sounds such as hair dryers etc, so they will be less likely to be fearful of them later on.

    They also get the opportunity to make mistakes, so you can teach them the rules of the house. I can't emphasize too strongly that a dog in a crate is learning nothing.


  • @mikesull, I've never followed that practice. Generally a healthy Basenji is going to gobble up the meal unless you are feeding too large a portion. Stale food is off putting and can cause problems with palatability. Better to put the food down and if it isn't promptly eaten, remove it. Four meals a day decreasing to three a day sounds right for a pup, for an adult I would say twice a day. Others may chime in on this, but I think free feeding is a mistake.


  • @mikesull - I never recommend free feeding. Put the food down, if not eaten in 10 minutes tops, take it away. And dry kibble is pretty boring for any dog. Mix a bit of wet canned with the kibble. Even with my litters I never ever free fed... 3 meals a day till 4 months and then twice a day. Snacks inbetween like a cookie or two...


  • Thanks!! I thought the food available at all times was unusual. Will start new routine tmrw!!


  • Talk with someone professional as soon as possible. It’s very not normal behavior to any puppy and must be dealt with professional help


  • @mikesull - Also I give mine as many of us do, veggies, steamed or raw... great treats and healthy for them...also fruits... I give mine yogurt once a day... and yes they eat it off a spoon..LOL.

Suggested Topics

  • Nouno needs to stop thinking about food….

    Behavioral Issues
    7
    0 Votes
    7 Posts
    3k Views
    N
    He told me that he mashed it up with his normal food. Nouno was eating everything when he was a puppy. Now he decided not to eat cucumbers ,potatoes and citrus fruits. Regards
  • 0 Votes
    15 Posts
    6k Views
    BarklessdogB
    Agreed. Sometimes I think the grosser it is they more they enjoy seeing our faces when they do it.
  • How to stop bad behavior

    Behavioral Issues
    18
    0 Votes
    18 Posts
    5k Views
    A
    yeah she likes california natural. didnt know it would help with her energy level. great news! just got back from a nice 3 hr walk w/ a friend. Now we're passed out on the couch and mommy has some quiet time. Good day. :) also, i vaccume stuffing at least 3 times a day. my neighbors/tennets must think i'm an impulsive cleaner!! haha. take care!
  • 0 Votes
    8 Posts
    4k Views
    snorky998S
    My female (Katie) will lick on the DH and DD a scab, scar, cut, mosquito bite, etc…, anything perceived as an "owie" to the point of re-opening a wound. We always thought of it as her overly active maternal instincts. (She's spayed--never had a litter--thank the B. gods;) ) We never had a licker of inanimate objects. Leather sofa I can see....scent or smell attraction. Katie did go through a phase where she started to lick herself, usually a mosquito bite or something irritating, and she slobbered so much on her leg that the couch or bed around her was wet, so she'd OCD and want to clean the slobber area, thus creating a larger and larger Basenji spit area. There's nothing like getting into what you think is a nice, cozy warm bed, then finding a huge damp spot--PANIC, PANIC, PANIC--first thought is someone has a peed on the bed, so you immediately, without thought, stick your nose right in it to smell:eek: We also use the "that's enough" command, then re-direct the B's attention to a more appropriate object/behavior.
  • Screaming

    Behavioral Issues
    2
    0 Votes
    2 Posts
    2k Views
    A
    My basenji has been waking up screaming in the middle of the night as well. It's happened probably 12-15 times in the last months or so. Do you know why your dog did this or did it ever happen again? Health wise my dog checks out fine and my vet is baffled. Please reply! I'm at my wits end trying to figure this out!
  • Terrible Two's? New aggression needs to stop.

    Behavioral Issues
    11
    0 Votes
    11 Posts
    5k Views
    phoenix3P
    Phoenix will get moody if he's hot this last weekend we had a heat wave :( And he was cranky as ever {can't blame him so was i} He won't go and bite someone but if they come up to him he growls as so say " can u see i am hot and umcomfortable and u want to put ur warm hands on me too" go away :)