@JENGOSMonkey I WAS THERE FOR '89! I was a kid, but I remember the water coming out of the swimming pool in huge waves and everything falling from the shelves! I was actually born in San Jose, but moved around a lot later LOL I hear the wildfires are more of a concern for you guys now? That's scarier than quakes for me...
The American Kennel Club
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If you notice 90% of the Puppy Mill puppies and many high volume Back Yard Breeders do NOT even use AKC any longer and have not for years. This started when AKC required high volume breeders to provide DNA testing and they didn't want to spend the money. They started their own registry (s). AKC doesn't write the standard or the code of ethics for each breed, that is up to the breed parent club, not AKC. Not to say that AKC is perfect, but again, let me point out that if you really look at these places, they are not AKC dogs… from the high volume breeders... As you said, AKC is a "registry" it is not the breeding police. If there is a disqualification according to the published breed standard, then the papers would be pulled, of course someone would have to report it... Unless you think that AKC should personally inspect every puppy that is sent in to be registered?
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If you notice 90% of the Puppy Mill puppies and many high volume Back Yard Breeders do NOT even use AKC any longer and have not for years. This started when AKC required high volume breeders to provide DNA testing and they didn't want to spend the money. They started their own registry (s). AKC doesn't write the standard or the code of ethics for each breed, that is up to the breed parent club, not AKC. Not to say that AKC is perfect, but again, let me point out that if you really look at these places, they are not AKC dogs… from the high volume breeders... As you said, AKC is a "registry" it is not the breeding police. If there is a disqualification according to the published breed standard, then the papers would be pulled, of course someone would have to report it... Unless you think that AKC should personally inspect every puppy that is sent in to be registered?
The AKC could almost put puppymills out of business if they wanted to, by only allowing the registry of 50 (yes 50) puppies per year by any one breeder at one location. They do not, and they don't for a reason. Commercial pet farms = big $.
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The AKC could almost put puppymills out of business if they wanted to, by only allowing the registry of 50 (yes 50) puppies per year by any one breeder at one location. They do not, and they don't for a reason. Commercial pet farms = big $.
Well, of course they *could. But as a business, that would be suicide. And, this is a market driven economy, and sadly, right now, pets are a commodity. There IS a demand for puppymill puppies, as exhibited by plenty of people here purchasing them.
We need to change either, or both of these issues: A) people simply stop buying from places that are supplied by puppymills, that requires massive public education, and a committment from buyers to not just succumb to the 'need to have it now' and/or the 'what a cute puppy' mentality.
make pet animals a separate class from livestock animals so that they may not be farmed.The pet legislation out and about right now will simply squash the responsible breeder, and not even touch the puppy millers….very sad....
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The AKC could almost put puppymills out of business if they wanted to, by only allowing the registry of 50 (yes 50) puppies per year by any one breeder at one location. They do not, and they don't for a reason. Commercial pet farms = big $.
Again, I point out… when AKC started to require DNA testing for high volume breeders they just started their own registry... John Q Public doesn't know "jack" from AKC papers from like "National Dog Registry" or National Pet Registry" or "CKC" (not to be confused with the Canadian Kennel Club which is also CKC)
They would not care less.... and if you think they would, all you need to do is look in the ads for puppies and see how many really are AKC.. and not only that.. how many say they are AKC, but when people get the papers, provided they really get papers, they are something other than AKC.
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The AKC could almost put puppymills out of business if they wanted to, by only allowing the registry of 50 (yes 50) puppies per year by any one breeder at one location. They do not, and they don't for a reason. Commercial pet farms = big $.
Again, I point out… when AKC started to require DNA testing for high volume breeders they just started their own registry... John Q Public doesn't know "jack" from AKC papers from like "National Dog Registry" or National Pet Registry" or "CKC" (not to be confused with the Canadian Kennel Club which is also CKC)
They would not care less.... and if you think they would, all you need to do is look in the ads for puppies and see how many really are AKC.. and not only that.. how many say they are AKC, but when people get the papers, provided they really get papers, they are something other than AKC.
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The AKC could almost put puppymills out of business if they wanted to, by only allowing the registry of 50 (yes 50) puppies per year by any one breeder at one location. They do not, and they don't for a reason. Commercial pet farms = big $.
Again, I point out… when AKC started to require DNA testing for high volume breeders they just started their own registry... John Q Public doesn't know "jack" from AKC papers from like "National Dog Registry" or National Pet Registry" or "CKC" (not to be confused with the Canadian Kennel Club which is also CKC)
They would not care less.... and if you think they would, all you need to do is look in the ads for puppies and see how many really are AKC.. and not only that.. how many say they are AKC, but when people get the papers, provided they really get papers, they are something other than AKC.
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All this makes me glad mine's a MIX!! My head hurts from reading all the points of view!! Long live the MUTT! A little humor…
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To throw a twist on this-in Canada we have CKC (Canadian Kennel Club). However, there is another CKC (Continental Kennel Club) That trades off the real CKC. Many people don't know the difference until they start asking.
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All this makes me glad mine's a MIX!! My head hurts from reading all the points of view!! Long live the MUTT! A little humor…
Sadly, the mutt won't live long either with the new CA legislation that animal rights people are trying to put in place. Everyone can look forward to having poorly bred pitbulls rescued from their local shelter, because those will be the only dogs available, since people who break the law to dog fight, aren't likely to adhere to the law to spay and neuter their dogs :rolleyes:
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To throw a twist on this-in Canada we have CKC (Canadian Kennel Club). However, there is another CKC (Continental Kennel Club) That trades off the real CKC. Many people don't know the difference until they start asking.
Good point, Arlene….
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Sadly, the mutt won't live long either with the new CA legislation that animal rights people are trying to put in place. Everyone can look forward to having poorly bred pitbulls rescued from their local shelter, because those will be the only dogs available, since people who break the law to dog fight, aren't likely to adhere to the law to spay and neuter their dogs :rolleyes:
Amen to that Andrea!!! And folks if you don't think this can happen to your state, think again…
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Pat, we have anti dog legislation in Ontario against Pit's. Also in Alberta-it didn't do us any good lobbying against it because the idiots that be wanted to believe the BYB and not the true breeders. I believe after 12 years the last pit in Alberta died last year. This will be the same in Ontario. Sad isn't it-Damn the deed, not the Breed! In Ontario, this could be any 'Pit-type looking canine' not necessarily even Pit's, but boxer's (Square headed) mastiff's, etc. The Humane Society here transport's any that they have over the river to NY so they won't have to put them to sleep if they are puppies.
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We are learning in California how critical it is to stand together to lobby for our right to own healthy, well bred pets. The bill did pass out of the Assembly to the Senate but the vote was much closer than I think anyone thought it would be when the bill was first proposed. We still have to stay loud and keep writing letters and keep letting California businesses and politicians know how much responsible pet owners contribute to this state and how much money the state stands to lose over this legislation since money talks.
