Walking

[Patty]

I'm not at all sure that neutering would stop him from looking for other dogs. Changing the walking routes would only mean a change in what he is sniffing. It seems to me that you have a worried dog which is shown by his posture. There are two things here - the sniffing is quite normal. When I walk my Basenjis they are constantly sniffing as they walk and stopping at places where the scent is strong - it is part of their enjoyment in the walk. The defensiveness is another matter. I have never found that treats are useful in training my dogs (I acknowledge that this doesn't apply to all Basenjis) particularly if they are anxious. Have you tried a training halter to help with stopping him from pulling? A good behaviourist might be able to help you with the anxiety and perhaps the training could involve some calmer dogs as well. You don't mention his age but I'm assuming he is a puppy as you say you are still leash training?

[ktiefen1]

My 3 year old male neutered Basenji has similar behavior. Like most basenjis he has enormous front body strength, he is very strong and it can be like a tractor pull when he is focused on something (especially other dogs). His hackles go straight up. We tried many different harnesses and have been very satisfied with the brand an animal behaviorist recommended, which makes the tugging factor less hard on me and on his body. We live in the city and there are so many triggers that affect him. We walk past many dogs, and a leashed Basenji is a tense Basenji. Other breeds can ignore the “other dog” factor, but ours cannot. I seek out alleys and quieter streets where there are less encounters with other dogs. When I see a dog being walked ahead, I cross the street. My dog also sniffs everyyyyything. I’ve come to think that it is the stimulation he craves and that it is positive for him. It can make you crazy because there is constant stopping. I have to be pretty zen to let him sniff for as long as he wants. I’m not always in the mind set for the amount of time it takes him satisfy his sniffing needs, but most of the time I go with it.

[DonC]

Sounds like it might be normal. Would be useful to see a video.

[Kembe]

@ktiefen1
Lol about your sniffing comments. My 13 year old female basenji is exactly the SAME! A walk that should take 30 minutes - takes an hour because of her sniffing. She is not crazy about other dogs since she was attacked by a large black lab. She is also on high alert with her MOHAWK UP when other dogs are around.

[Pawla]

All of what you describe sounds pretty typical. Maybe a good harness designed to stop pulling would help make him more managable on walks. Don't forget - he will assume the role of pack leader if you do not. I would try to find a way to get his attention to "look at me" and take direction (via really high value spectacular treats or a beloved toy). An obedience class (and the excercises required) might help.

[bigbill22]

My girl did the same thing until I realized that it stopped after she went to the bathroom, she liked to go in specific places and she would drag me to her spot, go and then she walked normally, it took a little time to put the pieces together and it was consistent

[csherer716]

We always have to be alert when walking out basenji mix because if she sees a squirrel or a deer or anything I literally think she could pull me down. It's the thing that has absolutely been a game changer for us is a halter leash called sensible. I think I paid in the neighborhood of $18-$22 for it and the company helped me make sure I was getting it on her correctly. It is absolutely not anything that's cruel but I will not go walking without it it has changed everything for us and now my walks are so pleasant. You should try this all means. Good luck

[Rugosa]

@abbyh said in Walking:

get him to actually enjoy the walk

Sounds to me he IS enjoying the walk. If you want him to just walk on a leash, not pulling at all, I suppose that's possible. I am sure there are other basenjis owners that can train there dogs to not do these things, but I do not. I don't walk mine down the sidewalk very often, because the reason I walk them is for THEM, not me.

Figure out why you're walking your dog, if it's a situation where you need 'obedience, I can't help you, sorry.

Just remembered, when I'd walk my basenjis at dog shows, they did walk with their heads up when out side the show ring. The only thing I can think of is that there was so much going on, they walked with their heads up because they were excited? Maybe it was the show collar? Maybe walking in that situation was for ME, and I trained them to do that, not sure. I don't know.

[ktiefen1]

@rugosa Yes, re heads up. My dog is in sentry mode, scanning things close and distant. And since they can turn their heads so far to both sides, I think they get a very big picture of their environment

[Kembe]

@kembe
My friend say that the "sniffing" the dogs do in their walk is "FACEBOOK FOR DOGS!" - lol

[Zande]

Mine never stop sniffing - watching Hoover quarter the ground always makes me laugh. I am lucky though, I drive to the forest, open the tail gate and out they jump. A short whistle and they change direction instantly. I like to vary the walks so we seldom go the same paths twice in the same week. Weekends I do hitch them as we approach the carpark cos they are over friendly and over curious and other cars might yield a treat ! But today, for example I let them run and and hide under the car out of the rain until I caught up and opened so they could jump in.

There is no way I could cope with them on a lead although they do both walk well without pulling if someone else takes them out. That will happen more often through July cos I am having total replacement hip surgery on 29th June !!! Once I can walk again, I could take them on the leash - but why bother ? They enjoy their freedom, get along fine with all the dogs we meet and with their humans.

In the past, I have used a 'gentle leader' on dogs who pulled on their way in to a show venue. They work very well - NOT a halti cos they can damage the dog. Gentle Leader - and I know you can get them in USA cos that is where I got the idea.

[DebraDownSouth]

@zande
Good luck on the hip replacement. Speedy recovery!

[abbyh]

I took him to a dog training class and asked the trainer about his behavior. He assured me that his "defensive mode" was just him being protective and curious. My dog is toy driven, so he advised me to distract him with a toy or pet him to let him know that everything is okay. Thank you guys for the comments! I have invested in a harness, and I've noticed that he seems to walk with more ease when wearing it. He still sniffs around (but from what I've read from the comments, it must be pretty common).

[Pawla]

@zande
Best wishes for a successful hip replacement and speedy recovery!!!

[DonC]

@zande Yes, good luck on the surgery. Here the results are excellent and it's now done as an outpatient procedure. Show up in the morning and you're home by noon. The surgery sounds scary -- and it is -- but the surgeons really have it down.

Note that the replacement part weighs more than the original, so don't fret if you gain a couple of pounds!

[Zande]

Thank you for all the good wishes ! Some local hospitals get you out the same day but they may have to control my rat poison intake (blood thinner - Warfarin (Coumadin ?)) Anyway I am hoping to be home after two nights maximum.

@donc said in Walking:

Note that the replacement part weighs more than the original, so don't fret if you gain a couple of pounds!

Bless you for giving me an excuse !

@abbyh said in Walking:

He still sniffs around (but from what I've read from the comments, it must be pretty common).

Absolutely, completely normal for dogs to sniff the ground, each other and their owner's breath - Just checking !

[RyanP]

@ktiefen1 Hello - would you please share the type of harness that the behaviorist recommended? I have two basenjis and they're hunting instinct for squirrels and cats is taking its toll on my shoulder and back. Thank you!

[Zande]

Gentle Leaders. Ideal for controlling the dogs without any risk they will get rubbed sore by any other form of 'harness'. The dogs don't pull on them and they can't be harmed (no fur rubbed off the shoulders and none of the restriction of a no-pull.

[DebraDownSouth]

@ryanp said in Walking:

@ktiefen1 Hello - would you please share the type of harness that the behaviorist recommended? I have two basenjis and they're hunting instinct for squirrels and cats is taking its toll on my shoulder and back. Thank you!

Behaviorists aren't in agreement on much of anything.

Gentle Leaders have a lot of fans, but I'm not one of them. I believe in going back to step one and teaching your dogs not to ever pull on the leash. If someone is disabled or for some reason really needs one, that's different. But training your dog is best. If I had to use one, I'd back it with a harness or collar, especially walking 2 dogs, since getting out of one might be easier.

Should add some DOGS need harnesses, not collars or head harnesses if they have neck injuries or even some eye issues. And even though I am not a big fan, they can provide more security. This article is from professionals and they prefer harnesses, as well as tell you how to choose:

https://activepet.co.uk/dog-harness/

Abstract
The effect on intraocular pressure (IOP) from dogs pulling against a collar or a harness was evaluated in 51 eyes of 26 dogs. The force each dog generated while pulling against a collar or a harness was measured. Intraocular pressure measurements were obtained during application of corresponding pressures via collars or harnesses. Intraocular pressure increased significantly from baseline when pressure was applied via a collar but not via a harness. Based on the results of the study, dogs with weak or thin corneas, glaucoma, or conditions for which an increase in IOP could be harmful should wear a harness instead of a collar, especially during exercise or activity.>>
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16611932

For harnesses, there are currently a lot of articles about research on harnesses, which work best with the least inhibition to natural movement. This is a great article on it for anyone on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/tierphysiotherapie-brigitte-jost/reflections-on-chest-harnesses/1369929759778331/