quick update, since this has been quite an ordeal for us…went back to PetSmart to return/exchange the EasyRider harness on our way to Kansas City. The employee involved her mgr in our conversation, since she had no idea what to suggest. We walked out with an American Tourister seat belt harness, and so far, so good. Pippi remained strapped in during our short jaunts around the city, and also during the 500 mile trip back home, whether from travel fatigue, disinterest, or inability to escape -- who knows! In the meantime, we'll continue to set her up in the harness and hope for the best!

I have read such horror stories about dogs who fly in the below cabin because they are too big to go under the seat - my smallest weighs 20.8 pounds, and would never settle for one of those Sherpa bags - they look very useful for smaller dogs though. If the time comes I have a long way to travel, we will drive it.

It's a wonderful story. Thank God for people who rescue dogs and those who adopt rescues.

My 3 b's like me to go outside in the yard with them at night. They sure don't stay outside for long! I do think they have a bit of fear of the dark.

We decided to wait longer. I had to study this week, so having a new dog around would be a bit too much ?nd I really want a puppy… I just saw on the internet that she found someone who's interested in her, so she probably found a new home already. Fingers crossed for her :) It's hard to choose between two things, If you would rather have both.... Sigh..

I'm really sorry you are in this situation and I understand your guilty feeling.. I do not agree with what is said above about dogs sleeping all day and not caring about how much their humans are there with them as long as they are loved… (sorry..) If I were you I would think hard about keeping him or not. If you know your situation will not change and you can find someone who can offer him more, I think you are doing what is best for the dog by giving him a new home. If you believe this situation will only be temporarily or if you can't find that better home, then you can try to make things a bit better for Tucker by giving him more quality time in the morning. I believe 20 min is too little time to get the energy out of a 2 year old pup. After an 8 hour sleep during the night and before 11 hours of laying in a kennel/x-pen during the day a dog needs a lot more than 20 min.. If you could get up earlier, you could try to walk/cycle Tucker for like about 45-60 min? I think loosing some of his energy will also help with him being less destructive when loose in the house. Mabye you can try to find a nice neighbour/family member/etc who could walk Tucker during the day? Even if it was only one day per week, that's better than none :) Also, if the daycare is too expensive for the entire week, maybe you can only bring him one or two days per week? Just thinking out loud here :) I hope I don't sound harsh.. And I hope you find some ways to make it a better situation for Tucker and yourself.

Ella does not dry us off, but she will go after any other wet dog. When we are walking near a creek with our Labrador friends she will crouch on the edge of the stream, torn between excitement and fear. But when a wet dog emerges from the creek, she will excitedly chase and nip and lick them.

Well .. both my partner and i know when the house is quiet it means little miss is up to mischief… we figured she was either down in the toilet or the bathroom so the other half got his phone out and turned the camera on. We caught her in the bathtub ha ha ha she gave us the most evil look :D (it was empty though) teehehee... shes got a thing for that tub. [image: Photo0161-1.jpg] :) busted and an extra photo the other half took when we were down the dog park for the social [image: Photo0160.jpg] Shes my world :)

I am glad Jaycee is good again. I have used benadryl as well, not on Otis but on our little min.schnauzer mutt, it worked wonders and quickly too. Miss seeing y'all around here…

Some nice suggestions; I have none, just wanted to say that musical is one of my favorites. I have the album, yes, vinyl. For those too young, B4 the MP3, the CD, there were these big round discs of vinyl called albums, and they played on both sides! :) Perhaps 'Kinetics Fie(ght) on Goodness' (Fie on Goodness - song from said musical) - yeah, I know, lame. :D P.S. I like Knight of the Round Tails :)

Wow - great magazine.

Me too. and I also wonder how these films can be a blessing as well as a boon for breeders? I do know that we have a major problem here in Border Collie Rescue which initially arose after the television series of Sheepdog trials. So many thought what a wonderful pet such clever dogs would be!

Going to duct tape hands about having dogs off leash. Marli, there are many problems with flexi leads including a dog too far from you should another animal charge. Work on loose leash walking so the dog doesn't pull and husband doesn't feel need to use one. http://www.clickerlessons.com/looseleash.htm That said, squirrels and chipmunks. Mine lose their minds when they see them. I use a leash they can't bite because Arwen would almost chew her legs off to get to one, but has learned the basenji proof lead won't give. Thanks to Jack Austin for telling me how to make one! [image: 5669Leash.jpg]

I don't care how much pampering my dog gets or whether or not TV is available - that's just icing on the cake and cash out of my wallet. I do care about the basic TLC that is offered. Here's a few things I looked for when checking out the doggie day cares: 1. How high are their fences and how do the dogs move from kennel to play area? 2. How large is the outside play area and are there bushes or other obstructions for the humans watching? 2. How many dogs do they let play together at one time? 3. How many humans watch over the dogs playing? 4. How do they introduce new dogs – small dog to small dog; temperment to temperment; free for all? 5. What doggie first aid training do the humans have? I visited one place that had a very very very large outdoor area and only the standard 4 foot fence. I asked what happens if a dog jumps the fence -- oh we've never had that happen (and they never had experience with basenjis either). I visited one place that had a large playroom and allowed all the dogs together at one time with only one person to watch over. I asked what happens if there's a fight -- oh I come running after them with a spray bottle of water. Don't be fooled by appearances.

What fun to be made on the street that way.

Bisa LOVES to cuddle underneath a blanket! She will paw the threads out of one to get under it with you! LOL

Thanks y'all! Debra, PwP? LOL I love that!

Reminder, seminar coming up.

I give my bitches 'Hormonise' from www.animal-health.co.uk before, during, and after their seasons. It solves most of the 'bitchy' problems. It is herbal and was originally developed for mares in season, I have used it to good effect for many years.

Hello to an old thread! Orlando needs some puppy love again :) How many Otowner's are left? Maybe we can meet up sometime after I get my new girl (or even before if Bear decides he'll deal with going to a dog park). I used to go to Fleet Peoples Park in Winter Park. Which one's do y'all prefer? I googled about a new dog park that opened this year in Winter Springs called Hound Ground. They even have a lil agility course it says, was thinking with a basenji type she might like it. Anyone been there? I was also thinking of taking them to a daycare facility once a week when my mom leaves to work with dad so they wouldn't be home alone bored while I worked every day. Parc Pet is a place in Longwood that sounded nice and on my way to and from work. I'll definitely have to drop in sometime to see, but if anyone's heard anything about them I'd love to hear! Hope to meet y'all sometime either here or one of those Tampa meet ups.