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Coat Color Inheritance in basenji

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  • TivaT

    Misspodhradsky:

    tri factored black dog - Kk ayat
    tri factored red dog - kk ayat

    Use punnett square for K locus and another punnett square for A locus:

    ….......K........k
    k….....Kk.......kk
    k........Kk.......kk

    So, we have Kk (twice) and kk (twice)

    A locus:

    …............ay..........at
    ay….......ayay.....ayat
    at..........ayat......atat

    We got ayay, ayat (twice), atat

    Than put both, K and A locus, together (every K result with every A result):

    Kk ayay - black
    Kk ayat - tri factored black
    Kk atat - tri factored black

    kk ayay - red
    kk ayat - tri factored red
    kk atat - tricolor

    Or, with your letters:
    tri factored black dog - Kk Yy
    tri factored red dog - kk Yy

    ….......K........k
    k….....Kk.......kk
    k........Kk.......kk

    …............Y..........y
    Y….......YY.........Yy
    y..........Yy......yy

    And than again, put all together:

    Kk YY - black
    Kk Yy - tri factored black
    Kk yy - tri factored black

    kk YY - red
    kk Yy - tri factored red
    kk yy - tricolor

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  • misspodhradskyM

    @Monika:

    Big Y is a red
    small y - tricolor,saddle,agouti and recesiv gen.Can not have four different meanings

    Yes i know that. But when you put ay, at, etc. it confuses me. I need the coding to be is Y,y, K, and k. I think thats it. but i cant follow when people add in different letter cuz i dont understand it :(

    Which sucks cuz when you use letters i know it starts getting easier and easier lol

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • misspodhradskyM

    @Tiva:

    Misspodhradsky:

    tri factored black dog - Kk ayat
    tri factored red dog - kk ayat

    Use punnett square for K locus and another punnett square for A locus:

    ….......K........k
    k….....Kk.......kk
    k........Kk.......kk

    So, we have Kk (twice) and kk (twice)

    A locus:

    …............ay..........at
    ay….......ayay.....ayat
    at..........ayat......atat

    We got ayay, ayat (twice), atat

    Than put both, K and A locus, together (every K result with every A result):

    Kk ayay - black
    Kk ayat - tri factored black
    Kk atat - tri factored black

    kk ayay - red
    kk ayat - tri factored red
    kk atat - tricolor

    Or, with your letters:
    tri factored black dog - Kk Yy
    tri factored red dog - kk Yy

    ….......K........k
    k….....Kk.......kk
    k........Kk.......kk

    …............Y..........y
    Y….......YY.........Yy
    y..........Yy......yy

    And than again, put all together:

    Kk YY - black
    Kk Yy - tri factored black
    Kk yy - tri factored black

    kk YY - red
    kk Yy - tri factored red
    kk yy - tricolor

    OH! ok! so you dont do them all together. you do letter with letter and then add them! Oh ok!!! Thank you soo much! That helps alot!

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • M

    letter "a" located in the locus A

    letter y,t,w,a, talking about hair color
    otherwise you can not save

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  • M

    Letter D intense color
    letter d lightened the color

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  • misspodhradskyM

    @Tiva:

    Kk YY - black
    Kk Yy - tri factored black
    Kk yy - tri factored black

    kk YY - red
    kk Yy - tri factored red
    kk yy - tricolor

    Where did you get the bold ones. I understand how to get the others but if you do it and add them together it makes no sense. …to me

    OR do you have to do

    1....2
    3....4

    1...2
    3...4

    do you have to do 1 with 1, 1 with 2, 1 with 3, 1 with 4....then 2 with 2, 2 with 3, 3 with 4....then 3 with 3, 3 with 4....then 4 with 4. and then take all the alike genes and group them. then take all the unalike genes and
    that is how you go the 2 extra genes?
    (I used 1,2,3,4 just to make it easier to understand than using letters K, Y, etc.)

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • M

    Tiva helping me, thank you

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  • M

    I am beginning to be wrong.I'm going to sleep until tomorrow. (11 _55 PM)

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  • TivaT

    from K locus we got:
    Kk (and again Kk) - 1
    kk (and again kk) - 2

    from A locus we got:
    YY - a
    Yy (and again Yy) - b
    yy - c

    1 + a = 1a (Kk YY)
    1 + b = 1b (Kk Yy)
    1 + c = 1c (Kk yy)
    2 + a = 2a (kk YY)
    2 + b = 2b (kk Yy)
    2 + c = 2c (kk yy)

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  • misspodhradskyM

    @Tiva:

    from K locus we got:
    Kk (and again Kk) - 1
    kk (and again kk) - 2

    from A locus we got:
    YY - a
    Yy (and again Yy) - b
    yy - c

    1 + a = 1a (Kk YY)
    1 + b = 1b (Kk Yy)
    1 + c = 1c (Kk yy)
    2 + a = 2a (kk YY)
    2 + b = 2b (kk Yy)
    2 + c = 2c (kk yy)

    Oh ook i think i get it now, thx for the help in clearifying it. so would "A" always be YY, "b" always be Yy and "C" always be yy? or is that just for this example?

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • lvossL

    Just for that example.

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  • misspodhradskyM

    oh. so how do you know what to use then. :(

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • lvossL

    It depends on the alleles of the dog. The litter that I co-bred and have been posting puppy pictures of the parents are KkYy and KkYY. If you do the two punnet square way instead of the 16 punnet square way you would get.

    At the K locus

    ….......K........k
    K........KK.......Kk
    k........Kk.......kk

    At the A locus

    .............Y.............y
    Y..........YY...........Yy
    Y..........YY...........Yy

    So we get

    from K locus we got:
    KK - 1
    Kk (we get this twice) - 2
    kk - 3

    from A locus we got:
    YY (we get this twice) - a
    Yy (we get this twice) - b

    1 + a = 1a (KK YY)
    1 + b = 1b (KK Yy)
    2 + a = 2a (Kk YY)
    2 + b = 2b (Kk Yy)
    3 + a = 3a (kk YY)
    3 + b = 3b (kk Yy)

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  • misspodhradskyM

    hmmm. I guess i dont really get this part. How do you do a 16 punnet square? Maybe that will be easier for me. (maybe not lol)

    ill try to examine them some more and see if i cant get it down.

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • lvossL

    I will see if I can get a graphic for a 16 square punnet tomorrow.

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  • misspodhradskyM

    Ok thank you :) id like to see that

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • misspodhradskyM

    @lvoss:

    It depends on the alleles of the dog. The litter that I co-bred and have been posting puppy pictures of the parents are KkYy and KkYY.

    What is KkYy? is this a Black basenji with a tri gene? and KkYY. is this a red Basenji with a black gene?

    these are, ironically, the only two that i didnt understand what they would be as dogs.

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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  • lvossL

    KkYy - a black dog that can produce blacks, reds, and tris
    KkYY - a black dog that can only produce blacks and reds

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  • lvossL

    Cole - has a black and white dam and a tri dad. Based on his mom's litters we believe she is KkYY which makes him KkYy. He has to carry tri since his dad is tri.

    TC - has a black and white sire and red and white dam. Based on pedigree and breedings, we believe she is KkYY.

    attachment_p_120410_0_stackedcole.jpg
    attachment_p_120410_1_tcstand.jpg

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  • misspodhradskyM

    O ok this makes sense. Is there a way you could help me determine what my girl is? Ill link the colors of the parents and maybe you can help me determine what she is.

    http://prairielandbasenjis.webs.com/colorinheritance.htm

    I put the link on my website. With a couple questions for you on there. Once i figure everthing out i wont be having it on there anymore. If you could try to determine what she is i would greatly appreciate it! But also if you could remember how you did it and explain it to me so i can understand. Thank you!

    Miss Podhradsky

    Basenji owner/lover since 2002

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