Hi jetred,
From your post a year ago… this is exactly the type of information I'm searching for, "I know this might not be survivable for her but I can't find any advice on how to get a dog through cancer, what to look out for, when is she truly in pain, what spindle cell does over time and when is enough for her and time to set her free."
So I am wondering, what was your plan with Luna? How did you make decisions? What information did you learn that you think is important to know about the spindle cell cancer disease process?
I have a 15 yr old girl (aussie shepard mix) who is in good spirits, enjoys slow short walks, putting her nose in the wind, eating, etc all normally. We've had two surgeries already to debulk the tumor on her rear leg. One in 2013, and the second recently in June from which she recovered well for her age. Though it returned quickly (3 mos) and larger this time. It's now an open lesion. I am both astounded and perplexed at how she acts pretty normal given this! My vet (who is a new vet to us as I just moved) initially discussed end of life decisions and then also offered amputation as an option to consider. I would so appreciate any thoughts you have and/or hear more about your story.
Thank you.
If Otis' parents have been Fanconi tested…
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Thanks for the info.
petra
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Yes, I have an HM98….. dog born Nov 2001. Then I have a HN01...... dog born Nov 2002. Then I jump to dogs with HP19.... born Nov & Dec 2005.
If it's an AKC registration number, it will have 2 letters followed by 8 numbers. The first 6 numbers are the litter number, the last two are each individual puppy's number. (01, 02, 03, etc.) And I think all the hounds start with "H"?
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Hey BF members,
Does anyone remember this thread? Might be related? Possibly the breeder?
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Hey BF members,
Does anyone remember this thread? Might be related? Possibly the breeder?
Good memory…. and I would guess this is the breeder
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You mean the breeder to my dog? that is correct.
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How old does a dog have to be to be tested for Fanconi? How old for the eyes to be Cerfed?
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Type the parent's name or registration number into the search field. If they have been tested then they will show up. If not, then it will tell you cannot be found.
As an example, you can search my dog's name, Sherwood's In The Nick Of Time. You should find that there are 5 entries in the OFA database for him including Fanconi.
http://www.offa.org/results.html?all=sherwood%27s+in+the+nick+of+time
If you click on one of the links, you will be taken to his OFA record and can view all of his results and the results of his parents and offspring.
http://www.offa.org/display.html?appnum=789239#animal
For an example with the registration number, you can search HP13054204. You should find that there are 5 entries for her in the OFA database.
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Type the parent's name or registration number into the search field. If they have been tested then they will show up. If not, then it will tell you cannot be found.
As an example, you can search my dog's name, Sherwood's In The Nick Of Time. You should find that there are 5 entries in the OFA database for him including Fanconi.
http://www.offa.org/results.html?all=sherwood%27s+in+the+nick+of+time
If you click on one of the links, you will be taken to his OFA record and can view all of his results and the results of his parents and offspring.
http://www.offa.org/display.html?appnum=789239#animal
For an example with the registration number, you can search HP13054204. You should find that there are 5 entries for her in the OFA database.
Thank you for this. Very helpful. So can the parents be tested and not be recorded on there? and also how old do dogs have to be to get tests done for their eyes. I know hips are 2 yrs and i believe Fanconi is whenever (right?)
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The parents cannot have had the Fanconi test done and not be in the database.
Eyes can be tested as young as 8 weeks old for the first time but need to be retested on a regular basis. Since eyes change with age, it is important to monitor them well into old age.
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The parents cannot have had the Fanconi test done and not be in the database.
O ok. Do they have to be tested if the mother and father are CL?
Eyes can be tested as young as 8 weeks old for the first time but need to be retested on a regular basis. Since eyes change with age, it is important to monitor them well into old age.
Ok Thank you. I was curious and it makes sense i would agree to moniter them as ur rught, eyes change with age.
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Do they have to be tested if the mother and father are CL?
Well technically no, I guess not, but since this is such a new test it is always better to be safe rather then sorry, and it is also good to have the est done so his/her results get input into the database. The more dogs we have tested the less likely a fanconi dog is to be bred..ultimate goal is no more fanconi.
I had Otis tested even though he came from a CL/CL mating..I wanted to be sure and I wanted to have one more dog in the system..If your dog has fanconi and you catch it early on, chances of his/her life being not quite so miserable is better and we all want that right?
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Well technically no, I guess not, but since this is such a new test it is always better to be safe rather then sorry, and it is also good to have the est done so his/her results get input into the database. The more dogs we have tested the less likely a fanconi dog is to be bred..ultimate goal is no more fanconi.
I had Otis tested even though he came from a CL/CL mating..I wanted to be sure and I wanted to have one more dog in the system..If your dog has fanconi and you catch it early on, chances of his/her life being not quite so miserable is better and we all want that right?
Thank you for the reply
I will get her tested just to do it. I agree more dogs in the database is better. and i DEFFINATELY agree with "NO MORE FANCONI"!! I would love for Basenjis not to have to worry about fanconi. I wish there was a way to make everyone not have carriers either. IMO, i dont think ppl should breed clears to carriers because it just makes more carriers which wont help us rid the disease any more. If i ever start breeding i am going to be sure I dont get any carriers because i want my lines to be clear/normal. i just think its better this way -
Not breeding to carriers is a terrible thing for diversity and could endanger the breed. That kind of thinking has led to some very bad bottlenecks and outcomes.
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Not breeding to carriers is a terrible thing for diversity and could endanger the breed. That kind of thinking has led to some very bad bottlenecks and outcomes.
oh really? But arent there enough (CL)s for that not to happen? I didnt realize. well thank you for letting me know. It just seemed better to have clear lines but i understand where you come from. I must have thought there were more Basenjis than there actually are.
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. IMO, i dont think ppl should breed clears to carriers because it just makes more carriers which wont help us rid the disease any more. If i ever start breeding i am going to be sure I dont get any carriers because i want my lines to be clear/normal.
i just think its better this wayThis is not a better way. If everyone did this, there would be terrible loss of diversity and long term it would lead to the end of the basenji breed.
Though it is true that breeding Carrier x Clear will produce carriers, it also produces clears so is a way to preserve genes from the carrier without producing affected dogs.
Here is a picture of L'Ox. He is a Clear offspring from a Carrier x Clear breeding.
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ya actually when you put it that way, that is true. I wasnt thinking when i said that, i appologize. its just a toss up which ones are carriers and which are clear. I forget you can get clears. I just wish there was a way to breed more lines without getting carriers. But ya im sorry i shouldnt have said that, carriers do offer an array of genetics necessary to the breed.
