She's vomiting bile in the morning!


  • @Nyala:

    Thank you, Sharon. Any comments about her diet?

    I'm on the phone now looking for a vet who is familiar with basenji health.

    And I am not sure this really would be just a "Basenji problem" unless she has Fanconi. You should get the test strips asap, as she should have been tested monthly for the last couple of years.

    Also, I am unclear about your comments on the Blood work? Were there not results for Liver? Kidneys? in addition to White/Red counts, etc?

    Again, I would look for a internist specialist and you should be able to get one from her regular Vet


  • And the only other thing I an pass on to you, is that three years ago, my then 11yr old would cry out when moving or being picked up, blood work indicated very high abnormal liver values and ultrasound showed a liver tumor. It was removed and non cancerous


  • Pat, I need to find out exactly what was included in the blood panel. Thanks for the tip about the internist.

    BTW: Chicken breast is poached and in the fridge, but what about the chicken jerky issue? Could she have developed an allergy to all chicken products if the jerkey is related to her current symptoms?


  • Where did the chicken jerky come from? If its from China, it could be the problem and reg chicken we eat shouldn't give her the same issues.
    I don't feed anything from overseas to my dogs.


  • You might also try cooking a little plain white rice and mixing some of that in with the chicken.


  • I have a meal you can make to put weight on a dog, but as it seems your b' might have something internal going on, I don't know if you should try it.
    If you think its something you want to see, let me know.
    It only has good things in it.


  • I think that the first thing to do is address any possible (or rule out) medical issues. Sounds to me like something is going on… that needs to be addressed medically first...

    And until you get the blood work results you will not know how the liver/kidneys are doing .....


  • @Nyala:

    Pat, I need to find out exactly what was included in the blood panel. Thanks for the tip about the internist.

    BTW: Chicken breast is poached and in the fridge, but what about the chicken jerky issue? Could she have developed an allergy to all chicken products if the jerkey is related to her current symptoms?

    Anything is possible… but until you get the results of the blood work, you really will not know if something is going on with any of the internal organs...


  • Well, once you have the Dr info, I can help you put weight on your girl.
    Do let us know what the Dr says…and Pat is right...the issue should be discovered first before anything else is done.


  • When I went through a weight loss issue with Blaze, my vet ran all the tests. Finding nothing really out of the ordinary, she had us do x-rays and ultrasound to rule out tumors. If your vet didn't recommend this, find a new vet. Weight loss and yelping due to movement is not a clean bill of health. I hope your new vet will help you find the cause and cure your B.


  • Yes, please do tell us what the new vet says re your b.
    We are all wanting to help you get your dog back to health.


  • If you are looking for a home cooked diet to keep her on until you get a diagnosis, you may want to try Dr Dodds Liver Cleansing Diet. It has some ingredients that you are already feeding her and she is keeping down.

    http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/Liver%20cleansing%20diet.htm


  • Question about the bile vomiting. I had Ziggy in at the vet's office a few days ago for an anorexia problem (it's cleared up now; he's completely back in the pink). This morning around 6 AM, he vomited some yellow bile, then went back to bed. He's done it before - it happens maybe 5-6 times in a year, so I don't worry about it and don't do anything to "treat" it.

    The vet gave me a followup call, and when I mentioned the bile vomit, she seemed to get very concerned - "It's never healthy for a dog to vomit" - and was pretty adamant that he's got some intestinal problem like irritable bowel. I told her that I have talked to many, many B owners who have said that their dog occasionally vomits bile when the stomach is empty and it's not a serious problem that means rushing the dog to the vet to get checked out.

    Do you agree? Is the "empty tummy" bile upchuck only a minor annoyance, if it happens very rarely and the dog is otherwise in perfect health?


  • My thinking is that if the dog is healthy, I don't worry about the yellow bile when the dogs stomach is empty. BUT if the dog is having other issues, I would listen to the vet.


  • I think all of my dogs have had empty tummy bile issues at some point (if I don't get them fed early enough or on-time at night).
    My vet told me to give them a dry biscuit treat before they go to bed and they also get one mid-day too, just to keep their tummies comfortable. Seems to do the trick.
    They are, of course, all healthy with no other underlying issues.

  • Houston

    Otis vomits too, if I feed him earlier then normal the evening before or wait too late the next morning..


  • One of my b's would puke bile because she was nervous. Please make sure there is less tension around her. separation anxiety can have problems also. Check with a GOOD vet!!!


  • AJ is notorious for empty tummy vomiting, always yellow bile. I changed his feeding to twice a day and it helped a lot. Now the only time he gets sick is when I have to back up, pull forward… back up, pull forward...to wiggle the truck into a dock door. He does okay in the daylight, but can have trouble at night. However, he has a healthy appetite and is active when the time calls for it. I would say there's something else going on with your girl.
    You already have the experts on the case, so my two cents worth are worth about that: two cents. Please keep us posted on how your girl is doing. I'll be thinking about you.


  • I have a question about test strips:
    do they have to have their pee tested first pee of the morning or can it be any time of day? It is dark in the morning and very hard to SEE them pee.. and I am not really thrilled about trying to get the strip wet, and ME not wet. 🙂
    thanks!


  • I agree with Sharron about the chicken strips from China.

    My B's vomit in the a.m. but it always worries me. When it happens I immediately give them a little yogurt or cottage cheese.

    Vomiting bile can also be an indication of liver or pancreatic problems. My 12 year old Basenji (mix) passed away a year ago last June. Vomiting in the a.m. was frequent and her breath smelled badly. For years, different vets told me there was nothing wrong with her. My Georgia vet immediately suspected she had liver disease and performed an ultrasound that confirmed it. She passed away six months later.

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