Basenji Boy Puppies

[YodelDogs]

@Mantis:

Cairo is officially at 5months and has found a new bag of energy at night that is extreme to say the least. Caesar and I wanted to know what age you guys are fixing your boys?

Neutering is not as likely to affect your pup's energy level as much as maturity will. Try to fit in more exercise sessions such as long walks and play sessions with another friendly dog to help curb the problem. My best wishes.

[MaxBooBooBear]

@felakuti:

our Fela, 4 1/2 month old male has an undescended testicle…the vet said that the testicle tucked into his warm body will produce too much hormones, and will make him very aggressive, and should be removed. That requires exploratory surgery to find and remove it. Any comments and/or suggestions?

Many, many years ago when I was in highschool we had a cocker who was very aggressive. Back then–it wasn't that common to neuter males. Our vet recommended he be neutered to try to help with the aggression. He had one undescended testicle (maybe that contributed to him being aggressive). He went into shock on the operating table when the vet was trying to find it, so he stopped the surgery, and the one was left in there. He was several years old at the time and continued to be aggressive.

[tanza]

Undescended testicles are a health concern for dogs.. and I have heard that also about "not" being able to remove them even during surgery, however now days with so many specialist, that is who should be doing that kind of surgery… IMO....
Also, wanted to chime in about a 4 month old with an undescended testicle.. I would wait until at least over 6 months.. especially with a Basenji. In one of my litters, we had a pup that I could find both at 2 wks, however at 10 weeks I could not, nor could my Vet... He was placed local, so I was able to see him a lot and it was not till he was 7 months did the other testicle drop..

Basenjis also carry their testicles different then other dogs, which is another reason people have problems (even Vets) finding them.. instead of like most dogs that carry them side by side, Basenjis carry them one in front of the other... which I suppect is the reason it is so easy for them to "suck" one up... and yes they do that.. especially puppies... Cold hands from a judge and you can bet they are gone!... Many judges will have the handler take them off the table and move them around the ring and then re-check....

[felakuti]

Basenjis carry them one in front of the other?????? First time i have heard of that. Is that verified by anyone else?

[Quercus]

Yes, they are often front and back, often in puppies. And they can be retracted much later into puppyhood than other breeds. In general their testicals are small for their size…probably because They are definitely *different ...maybe because small and discrete are important for bush dogs?

[Mantis]

I have noticed that Cairo's are one in front of the other and have dropped lower now where you can see them from behind.

[dash]

I have never heard that Basenji's can "suck up" their testicles. It makes sense though. Monkeys can do the same thing, and with the dogs running throught the bush you would want to keep them safe from being snagged. Very interesting.

[JazzysMom]

LOL, I haven't paid much attention but now I feel compelled to study Keoki's testicles next time I hold him.

LOL what are you people doing to me?

[felakuti]

monkeys can do that???????? i never heard of that before. LOL, this is getting more and more interesting dont you think? the vets must go crazy trying to neuter basenji male puppies. lol

[tanza]

Well, when put under for surgery, they will be "down" unless they have a retained testicle… and even sometimes those will drop...

[dash]

felakuti, yes, monkeys do that. I have worked with them for years and I was told it was to prevent them from getting nailed, ripped or bitten during fighting for territory or jumping through bush. They pull them up any time they are nervous or anytime they want.

[Quercus]

@dash:

felakuti, yes, monkeys do that. I have worked with them for years and I was told it was to prevent them from getting nailed, ripped or bitten during fighting for territory or jumping through bush. They pull them up any time they are nervous or anytime they want.

Dash, where do you work with monkeys, and what kind? I also worked with monkeys for years, but never was in the position to notice whether they were decended or not Apes (with which I have more experience) most certainly cannot contract their scrotums (at least not voluntarily).

[dash]

I used to work with cynomologus monkeys and rhesus monkeys in a research setting. I was there for 8 years before changing to my current position in the business office. I was wondering if greater apes could do it as well but I guess not. Maybe it is just lower species?

[Quercus]

Did you work at OSU's primate lab? Do you know Dr. Sally Boyson?

[dash]

no. Battelle. Is she the one who was in charge of the chimp facility that was shut down? If so, then a friend of mine worked with her there.

[Quercus]

@dash:

no. Battelle. Is she the one who was in charge of the chimp facility that was shut down? If so, then a friend of mine worked with her there.

Yes….unbelievable tradgedy.....I think at least two of her chimps have died during/since transport. Have you been following the story?

[dash]

sort of. The friend of mine who worked with the chimps said they were very poorly funded and were in need of a lot of things OSU wasn't able/willing to support anymore. It must have been horrible for her since that was her lifes work and I am sure they were her "babies"