The vet can manipulate to see if something severe is wrong, but hips xrays need to wait til 6 mos (OFA) or (I think.. too tired to look) 4 mos.. oh heck I have to look..
"The PennHIP method can be reliably performed on a dog as young as 16 weeks old."
More questions from a potential new owner
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Thanks for all the responses!
I got to visit my breeder and her adult dogs yesterday and I totally fell in love with them. I am going back to put a deposit down later this week.
And of course I asked about the health testing, which she does and even offered to let me talk to her vet if I wanted to double check.
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The vet can not verify the health testing that we are talking about and many vets are not even aware of the breed specific health testing that should be done. Please familiarize yourself with the CHIC requirements for the breed,http://www.caninehealthinfo.org/brdreqs.html?breed=BJ and the OFA website, http://www.offa.org and verify for yourself that both parents have been tested for Fanconi and at least one parent is Clear, preferably by Direct Test. Just type in the registered name or registration number into the search field to see what health testing has been done.
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It is important that you ask the breeder about genetic health testing for Fanconi Syndrome, eye problems, and thyroid. Many breeders also do hip x-rays for hip dysplasia. Are you familiar with the genetic health problems in Basenjis especially Fanconi Syndrome? There is no good reason to buy a Basenji puppy from a breeder without the parents and the puppy being tested for Fanconi Syndrome as it is not expensive nor difficult! I would not buy a puppy from a breeder without the other tests being done either.
Jennifer
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She has tested for Fanconi, yes.
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And you confirmed this yourself on the OFA site? Are the parents tested with the direct test or the marker test? If only the marker test, has she submitted them to be retested using the direct test? Some people are getting results that are different with the Direct test than what they had with the marker test so retesting breeding stock is important.
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I am in the Tampa area, who is your breeder? I didn't know of anyone breeding locally, I have had a couple of people ask me about pups recently, it would be good to have someone to refer them to.
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This is my breeder's first litter and I'm not sure if she plans to do it again next year. She bred one of her girls with a male from her breeder, who has guided her through the process of having her first litter. The original breeder I believe is Anne Webb-Pratt in Punta Gorda.
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This is my breeder's first litter and I'm not sure if she plans to do it again next year. She bred one of her girls with a male from her breeder, who has guided her through the process of having her first litter. The original breeder I believe is Anne Webb-Pratt in Punta Gorda.
Sorry, but I don't like the sound of it. Think with your head right now instead of your heart. Her first litter and she does not want to do it again? That is not the comment of a responsible breeder. It's the comment from someone looking to make fast bucks. Please please please find another breeder and as many have said, verify the test results yourself. Getting a basenji is a commitment of around 15 years. Are you ready for that? Bunnicula, I am not being hostile - I just love this breed and there are so many of them that wind up in rescues because people can't handle the time required for a basenji (LOTS of exercise) or don't want to deal with their basenji when they find out it has Fanconi and they don't want the 'hassle' of vet bills and putting the dog on the Fanconi protocol to keep them as healthy as possible.
If you are serious, you can find a good breeder. They may not be real close to you, but I drove 5 .5 hrs. to get my Kipawa, and it goes down as one of the best 5.5 hours I've spent in my life. The Basenji Club of America has some breeder referrals. But you still need to do your homework.
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I don't have experience with a puppy, and the others have given great advice on the subject, but I have moved and traveled quite a bit with my basenji. While I assume each dog is different, mine has adapted well each time. (Although he does mope when we first move from a place where he has doggy friends in the home to one where he is the only dog.) We've lived in small apartments in larger cities as well as medium to large houses with fenced in yards in small towns/rural areas. I made sure to keep familiar items (mostly his stuff: beds, toys, blankets, crate, etc) around the new house/apartment and in different rooms, which seemed to help during our last 2 moves. Keeping similar routines also helped to ease into the new place, like keeping the same walking routines if possible. As others have said, the living situation will dictate how you exercise your B. Last semester, from September to November, we traveled a lot while I was doing research. At least every other week (although more often it was every week), we would drive 4 hours to the coast on Thursdays and return home Sunday nights or Monday mornings. It took a few trips to get used to it, but after the 3rd or 4th time, whenever I pulled out my suitcase and started packing, he seemed to get excited, complete with tail-twitching, toy tossing, and a B500 or two while I got ready. He would also get right into his car crate and settle down whereas before he would fight with me about having to ride in the crate (if it was up to him, he would roam the car during the whole trip). They are quite adaptable as long as you are consistent.
Please take into consideration the recommendations of the others about the health testing. Check the results yourself on the links provided above. It would be heartbreaking to fall in love with a puppy that you were told is healthy only to find out later that it isn't, especially if you can prevent the situation. No one is trying to discourage you from getting a puppy, only trying to help you make an informed decision.
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I concur, check the health testing. However, being a breeder's first litter shouldn't be an automatic red flag, IMHO. Everyone starts somewhere. I have a close friend in another breed who started exactly the same way, helped along by the breeder she got her girl from, and now twenty years later she is a well respected breeder and a very conscientious one at that. I would ask about guarantees and return policies, however. A responsible breeder should insist on having the puppy returned to her if things don't work out.
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You are right, of course… not particularly a Red Flag if they are doing things as a responsible breeder.... BUT.... if she or her breeder have not done health testing or anything else with these Basenjis then BOTH are RED FLAGS.
Moral of the story, do the reasearch yourself and check out health testing results yourself. DO NOT RELY ON WHAT OTHERS TELL YOU...
And last but not least, as a responsible breeder most of us know just about everyone in the breed (maybe not personally, but we know of them)... and I know of no one in your general area. If you go to www.basenji.org and the to About Basenjis and Breeder Referral for the state of Florida there are three breeders listed. Being listed means that at least they are members of the Parent Basenji Breed club which is a big plus in their favor. If you look at the cities they are from the closest to you would be 149 mile and the furtherest 248 miles. Are any of these your breeder or your breeder's breeder?
And here is a good link on how to screen potential breeders: http://www.tanzabasenjis.net/selectbreeder.html
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I don't think a breeder's first litter is necessarily a red flag either. She is a person who I trust, a friend and neighbor of one of my closest friends. When I asked her about health testing she mentioned Fanconi right away. She is having me sign a contract with her saying she will buy back the dog at any point in time. She's offered to dogsit anytime I go out of town. She is not a regular breeder in that she initially planned for this to be her first and only litter but she did say she is thinking about keeping one of the males from this litter to breed with her second female. She picked her breeder carefully based on the reputation of her dogs' sweet temperament. I met them and it's true–they're just about the sweetest and fawned all over me even though I was a perfect stranger. She decided to breed her own dogs based on a desire to carry on this temperament. I will verify that she does direct DNA testing for Fanconi before I put a deposit down but otherwise, I trust her.
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Again, I urge you to look for more health testing then just Fanconi. While that is of course important, it is not the only problem we have in our breed.
And as a breeder, you have to ask yourself, what does this dog/bitch has to offer the breed? Breeders breed to improve the breed, not to just produce puppies. While it is not a must that you show your dogs, it is the best way to get other opinions if you are breeding to the Basenji Standard not only in conformation, but health and temperament. Same with performance events, while not a must, again it is a great way to know if you are breeding to the Basenji Standard.
Will these pups be AKC registered? Does she sell with a spay/neuter contract? These are all legit questions and ones included in the link that I sent you which was developed by The Basenji Club of America (Parent Breed Club).
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Have you brought home a new member yet???
