• He is adorable ❤


  • He's a lovely boy and you're doing very well with him. He looks very young to me too.


  • @Patty:

    He's a lovely boy and you're doing very well with him. He looks very young to me too.

    He's crossed with a schipperke which are much smaller…could this be why?


  • @basilboy7:

    He's crossed with a schipperke which are much smaller…could this be why?

    I don't think so… I think that many of us that have raised litters relate to their look at different ages... regardless of the breed. I had the same reaction to his picture... just looked younger then what you have said that he is....


  • @tanza:

    I don't think so… I think that many of us that have raised litters relate to their look at different ages... regardless of the breed. I had the same reaction to his picture... just looked younger then what you have said that he is....

    That's worrying. He should already be 11 weeks now. I was told he was born May 5th.


  • he is suuuuuuuper cute!
    he does look really young in the pictures - it looks like his eyes still have the blue tint to them.


  • Today we went to the vet and had his vaccinations done. I was upset that a vet didn't come look at him. Only a vet tech came in to do the shots and asked me how he was. She gave him his shot and I fed him a cookie… he didn't even flinch! 🙂 I was also given some heart worm pills. Yesterday I added a tsp of his kibble to the chicken, rice and yam mix. Today I'm adding two tsps. We're having trouble with not going for walks... he seemed to love them and get out a lot of energy while walking. I'm trying to run with him in the backyard but he keeps going into his rages trying to get my pants or ankles which is when I stop and grab his leash and hold him firmly so he can't bite me. He usually gives up and calms down. He has started to take an interest in fetch with a tennis ball that squeaks. The vet said no walking but I don't know if she meant until the antibiotics are done (we're done this coming Monday) or if that means after all his shots are finished. He gets his last shots on August 13th and I plan to sign him up for puppy socialization classes that start on the 21st. I wanted to check with you guys first. If he is only 8 weeks... why didn't my vet say something? Should he have gotten the 12 week vaccinations? Could they not work as well if given so early? Why would a breeder lie about his age? and also, when should I then start puppy socialization classes? How long after should we do the obedience training?


  • Vets are like any other professionals, some are really good, some are not so great. I would contact your practice and ask them when you pup will be safe to take out again - in view of the antibiotics as well as the vax - also sometimes having antibiotics at the same time can make the vax less effective.

    Also when the vet says not to take the pup for a walk do they really mean not to take him to areas where other dogs might be?

    Here is a link to a free down load of Dr Ian Dunbar's 'After you get your puppy'
    http://www.dogstardaily.com/files/AFTER%20You%20Get%20Your%20Puppy.pdf
    Which talks about all the socialisation your puppy will benefit from in helping turn him into a dog that will be a pleasure to be around.

    Also do not think of obedience class as something to start at a certain age. Think of it more that you are teaching him manners, and 'right from wrong' in your world - eg to a dog the whole world is a chew toy. To you his toys are chew toys and everything else is off limits. Again the download I've linked will help you work through these things.

    The same with play if you run with Basil it is perfectly normal for him to want to grab you trousers/legs, you need to show him this is not appropriate play with a human. Have a toy, like the ball, or a soft toy/rope tug that you substitute for your trousers. That way the game continues. If he insists on attacking your legs. Just stand up and walk away game over. He'll soon learn which is the most rewarding - what keeps the game going.

    We run puppy classes which if the puppy owners want to keep training their dogs (and most do) they go on to our more formal class after they graduate from the puppy socialisation course as the pups have learnt how to concentrate and work for short periods in an environment with other dogs and are ready for more focussed training.

    Good luck with your little guy, he certainly is a cutie-pie!


  • I talk my puppies out after the first set of shots. I just use common sense… and I do not believe in keeping them in a glass "bubble" until all the shots are given. I don't go to dog parks, I do not let them sniff poop from other dogs that people don't pick up. I take them to Lure Trials, Dog shows, etc. I have NEVER had a puppy get sick from doing that and I believe that it builds up their immune system to be out and about as soon as possible. And especially after the second shot.

    I think the reason that people were giving you mixed messages is that it seemed that your pup was younger then what you were told.

    Do you have recent pictures, like from the last couple of days we could see?


  • @tanza:

    I talk my puppies out after the first set of shots. I just use common sense… and I do not believe in keeping them in a glass "bubble" until all the shots are given. I don't go to dog parks, I do not let them sniff poop from other dogs that people don't pick up. I take them to Lure Trials, Dog shows, etc. I have NEVER had a puppy get sick from doing that and I believe that it builds up their immune system to be out and about as soon as possible. And especially after the second shot.

    I think the reason that people were giving you mixed messages is that it seemed that your pup was younger then what you were told.

    Do you have recent pictures, like from the last couple of days we could see?

    Thanks Tanza, I posted some pictures on the thread Vet concerned with growling. Please take a look and let me know what you think.


  • Pat, what age does the blue leave puppies eyes?


  • @sharronhurlbut:

    Pat, what age does the blue leave puppies eyes?

    I think that is the flash


  • Ok, thanks


  • His eyes still look a little blue in some light but not as much as it did when I first got him. What is your estimate as to how old he is?


  • Take a light and look in his eyes for strands of blue. The blue usually goes away long before the 11 or 12 weeks they claim he is. If there is still a lot of blue, he may have PPM and needs the vet to determine where the strands are located.
    http://www.basenji.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=155&Itemid=292#PPM


  • @tanza:

    He is very cute.. if those pictures are of him at 8wks, I am surprised… looks much younger... and don't see much Basenji there... but very cute all the same

    agreed not a basenji, but adorable.


  • @Barklessdog:

    agreed not a basenji, but adorable.

    What do you mean "not a basenji", as in he doesn't look like one? He's a cross between a schipperke and a basenji says the breeder. Does this mean she lied to me again? Or is there a possibility that he has a basenji father but doesn't look like him?


  • Most quality breeders do not breed mixes. Does this breeder have basenjis? As I also don't see any in this pup.


  • @sharronhurlbut:

    Most quality breeders do not breed mixes. Does this breeder have basenjis? As I also don't see any in this pup.

    She said she breeds both breeds separately but that her male had a mind of his own. So in other words it was an accidental litter. She said she's never had a mixed liter before.


  • It is surprising how fuzzy he is if he was sired by a basenji. Genetically a smooth coated dog, that should be pure for smooth in the case of basenjis, crossed with a long coated dog should produce smooth coats.

    Did the breeder witness the breeding or did she just guess when they didn't look like they were purebred?

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