I guess I should know this

[Barklessdog]

Dosen't grasp the concept of the whole hunting thing yet judt kind of wanted to play.

Our male has not a clue how to kill. He catches squirrels and they bite him all up till his covered in his own blood.

Our African female kills animal instinctively, delivering a death bite quickly, then gobbles them up before they know what happened.

She killed and ate 9 babies bunnies that nested in our yard. All at once! they were running everywhere, my wife is freaking out, we can't catch the dog or the bunnies. It was a slaughter. We only saved one bunny using a pond net.

Bunnies are natures candy though.

[lvoss]

@Barklessdog:

Why a good hound does not make good pet. They can smell food, tissues, dirty clothes, anywhere. On counters if they can't see they smell it. Our girl will use her paws pull anything off a counter to get to food. Everything has to be locked away or way up high. They have super senses.

Over the last 3 years, I have moved from just working on training my own dogs to being an apprentice dog trainer. I have had the opportunity to meet many dogs and owners. My basenjis can be naughty but the reality is that for the most part they are really good housedogs. Dogs come with a lot of hardwiring, and most breeds will counter surf, shred tissues, chew shoes, etc without training. In fact, many dogs who are given up for behavior are given up specifically because they do all these things since they never learned the rules of the game.

Can basenjis be more distracted by sensory input like sight, smell and sound than other breeds? Absolutely, but it doesn't mean they don't make great pets. In fact, one thing about my basenjis that I love is that they love being with me without being clingy. Also, with positive reinforcement training techniques, they really love to work. My girls have been taking turns at summer camp this week. The kids love to see them hit the agility course and are amazed at how great they are at Attention. Nicky and Rally have been wonderful demo dogs for my rally obedience class. This weekend they all will all get a chance to indulge their hardwiring to chase a little and do some lure coursing.

I just don't think that being hounds makes them less great pets but a person has to like the traits that make them hounds. That is one of the real advantages of purebred dogs, if you don't like the hardwiring for that breed, look for a breed with the hardwiring you do like.

[Barklessdog]

The kids love to see them hit the agility course and are amazed at how great they are at Attention.

Anyone who can have a Basenji do agility is a really good trainer. My hats off to you!

I wish you lived in Chicago, I would love to see your dogs perform.

I went to christmas party where they had a big Lab that just sat right next to the food table a few feet away. He sat upright right in front of a huge pile of all different kinds of lunch meats, not moving with no owner in sight. He sat there like that forever!

Could you get a basenji to do that?

I bet you could if you can get them to do agility.

[luzmery928]

I will tell you that I love my B to death and I love him as a package and don't see too much of a negative thing about him but yes i have wanted to pull my hair out at many times but like any other pet there are hurdles and barriers to go through but at the end you have this lovable, big eyes, curly tail, furry child that completly captured my heart, my families heart and anyone whoever has an encounter with him. I walk down the street and ppl call his name out, same when I go to my in-laws house. Pet, what pet, he is a member of my family and I am definetly addicted!

[tanza]

@Barklessdog:

Anyone who can have a Basenji do agility is a really good trainer. My hats off to you!

I wish you lived in Chicago, I would love to see your dogs perform.

I went to christmas party where they had a big Lab that just sat right next to the food table a few feet away. He sat upright right in front of a huge pile of all different kinds of lunch meats, not moving with no owner in sight. He sat there like that forever!

Could you get a basenji to do that?

I bet you could if you can get them to do agility.

Yes, you can get a Basenji to do that, but like the Lab it takes time.. I am sure there was lots of training that went into that lab not going after the food….. and I have seen my share of Labs that would have cleared that table in 3 seconds flat...:D

[tanza]

And While I don't do agility myself, my puppy owners have and do… both Obedience and Agility...(visit http://www.tanzabasenjis.net/News.html and see a picture of Lucy in agility) so with time and training they can learn… I totally agree with Lisa, the reason most dogs are given up is that they have never been trained... or people have gotten the wrong breed of dog for their family. I think that Andrea remarked on it quite well with the different levels of dogs.

[Basenji_Boy]

I just don't think that being hounds makes them less great pets but a person has to like the traits that make them hounds. That is one of the real advantages of purebred dogs, if you don't like the hardwiring for that breed, look for a breed with the hardwiring you do like.

Very well said. For me, I've had a hunting dog(pointer) before and wanted those traits in a smaller dog with hound qualities.

[lvoss]

@tanza:

Yes, you can get a Basenji to do that, but like the Lab it takes time.. I am sure there was lots of training that went into that lab not going after the food….. and I have seen my share of Labs that would have cleared that table in 3 seconds flat...:D

Exactly, it is all in how much time you want to put into training a behavior. For most people it is far easier to put up a babygate blocking the dining room and teach the dog to respect the barrier then it is train the dog not to clear the table of food. Each person has to decide what behaviors are really important to them and then reinforce them.

As for agility training, there are more and more basenji owners doing agility. It is a fun sport and the dogs really do enjoy it. As with anything the more time you can put into it the better the results you will get. I think the hardest part is finding a trainer that understands that there is no such thing as one size fits all training. Not all dogs learn the same just like not all humans learn the same. As a handler you just have to have a sense of humor for those days when the dog decides it can't possibly go through any round objects or that the purpose of the A frame is to stare at goats in the field, or any other quirk they come up with. But that goes for any training not just agility and not just for basenjis.

Here are some East Coast basenjis that do agility, http://apubasenjis.com/BasenjisAgility.html

[srjeeper]

**I don't feel any breed should be chosen for what it may be made into. It should be choosen for the way it is.

My B's had me trained in almost no time at all, just the way I was/is. :D**

[tanza]

@srjeeper:

**I don't feel any breed should be chosen for what it may be made into. It should be choosen for the way it is.

My B's had me trained in almost no time at all, just the way I was/is. :D**

Well I do agree about the "B's had me trained" part…

[RockysWoman]

OUr B has trained us… hence the "Rocky's Rules of Order". But in all seriousness, it has made me more of a neat freak. If things are put away, then the B can't get into them... or at least that's the theory. smile

Baseji agility... now that is something I could totally get into. I know my papillion would love it but I think Rocky would enjoy the mental stimulation... if I could just get him to stop worrying about the other dogs.

[vstripe]

OMG my basenji makes an awsome pet! He sits around and does nothing all day lol. I have worked at a grooming salon & have been a pet sitter in the past. From those experiences I have realized how EASY my B is to live with and care for. It was so interesting to see how different breeds behave. I dont know why but he doesn't do most of the crazy basenji things I hear about from other owners, so sometimes its hard to relate. With a couple of exceptions of course. I mean he will still want to hunt down things that are moving fast but I'm working to improve his self control. I would freak if he killed something one day but at the same time I know he's a hunting dog.
He's sweet with animals that dont run from him. We used to have a senior ferret that loved to crawl all over him and pull on him with her little hands and he just could not care less.
As for agility I would love to do that with him (for fun) but I dont know if I can because he's not AKC. Might be tough at first to get him to stop worrying about all the other dogs around though.

[lvoss]

If he is purebred, you can apply for an AKC ILP number so you can compete in AKC events like agility, rally, and lure coursing.

For those that do not have a purebred there are a lot of agility organizations that accept mixed breeds, CPE, USDAA, NADAC, DOCNA just to name a few.

[vstripe]

Cool thanks for the tip I'll have to look that up on line and learn more! Do basenji's do scent trials? He is from a rescue that picked him up at a shelter. I know zero about his backround or where he is from. He has the "look" of a puppymill Basenji, in the family there have been 2 from a breeder 1 pet store & now this guy the rescue.

[Mantis]

I prefer my basenji as a part of the Hound Group over the Terrier Group any day. I dont see any characteristics of the terriers in a basenji other than the similar colorings….

[Quercus]

@Mantis:

I prefer my basenji as a part of the Hound Group over the Terrier Group any day. I dont see any characteristics of the terriers in a basenji other than the similar colorings….

I would prefer hounds as well…but, really? You don't see any other characteristics? How about the overall tendancy for this: "are you looking at me...was that a look...what does that look mean...you wanna fight? sure I'll fight, c'mon...bring it on...." oh, and there is also the "what's in it for me attitude" that both groups share

They are also physically square like most terriers. Most terriers have almond shaped eyes...most terrriers have triangular ears that have been bred to flop over.

There original name when imported to the west was "congo terrier"

I see quite a few similarities But I defintiely prefer being in the hound group. And honestly, if we were going to be re-grouped, I would hope for a primative or spitz group to be formed...that would really be the "right" place for us

[tanza]

@Quercus:

I would prefer hounds as well…but, really? You don't see any other characteristics? How about the overall tendancy for this: "are you looking at me...was that a look...what does that look mean...you wanna fight? sure I'll fight, c'mon...bring it on...." oh, and there is also the "what's in it for me attitude" that both groups share

They are also physically square like most terriers. Most terriers have almond shaped eyes...most terrriers have triangular ears that have been bred to flop over.

There original name when imported to the west was "congo terrier"

I see quite a few similarities But I defintiely prefer being in the hound group. And honestly, if we were going to be re-grouped, I would hope for a primative or spitz group to be formed...that would really be the "right" place for us

I agree Andrea… I could have seen Basenjis put in with terriers very easily.. and I am glad that we are with the hounds... Also agree with the re-group..

[tanza]

@vstripe:

Cool thanks for the tip I'll have to look that up on line and learn more! Do basenji's do scent trials? He is from a rescue that picked him up at a shelter. I know zero about his backround or where he is from. He has the "look" of a puppymill Basenji, in the family there have been 2 from a breeder 1 pet store & now this guy the rescue.

Basenji do scent… but there are not trials, per say for them but I know that one of my puppies participated in one scent trial (however I don't remember the details).... You should subscribe to The Basenji Magazine... we have one Basenji owner that does hunting with his basenjis and does articles for the magazine... If you go to www.thebasenji.com you can get a free sample copy….

[lvoss]

Basenjis can participate in Tracking Trials but they are pretty tough to get into.

As for being like a terrier. I do see plenty of terrier traits. In fact, my obedience instructor has a border terrier that absolutely loves basenjis and has ever since she attended the BCONC Rally Seminar. Miss Pickle couldn't believe there were other dogs that wanted nothing to do with her and loved their own personal space. It made so much of an impression on her that when the basenji puppies came for the day she was like, "Mom, you finally brought the right puppies home."

[Mantis]

Basenjis lack the one trait that terriers all have that I do not prefer and it is the attentiveness, or desire to please their people all the time which portrays the hyper nature. I like that my basenjis aren't in my face all of the time.