I guess I should know this

[luzmery928]

Toaday at work as always I started talking about my Champ and someone asked me if this breed is AKA recognized or something like that. I said yes because I know that he has his microchip from this place but I have no idea what it really is. Kennel Association? Anyway he asked me what division would he show in. I have no idea I told him…all I know is that he has beautiful brown eyes, pointed ears and a curly tail. The guy just looked at me like o.k whatever. Can anyone give me the answer to these questions so I can answer them better next time. Thanks:rolleyes:

[tanza]

@luzmery928:

Toaday at work as always I started talking about my Champ and someone asked me if this breed is AKA recognized or something like that. I said yes because I know that he has his microchip from this place but I have no idea what it really is. Kennel Association? Anyway he asked me what division would he show in. I have no idea I told him…all I know is that he has beautiful brown eyes, pointed ears and a curly tail. The guy just looked at me like o.k whatever. Can anyone give me the answer to these questions so I can answer them better next time. Thanks:rolleyes:

I think he was asking if AKC (American Kennel club) recognized? And the answer is yes… AKC is a registery... and all the breeds that are part of AKC are supported by the parent breed club, in our case Basenji Club of America

[luzmery928]

thanks…and what about the showing division?

[lvoss]

And for what group, Basenjis are considered to be Hounds by AKC.

[luzmery928]

O.k thanks. I was writing the above ? as you were answering it. Hounds..that's funny it sounds so not like a basenji (eventhough I know they are sighthounds) there should be a nobel division or stud divison to describe there way of posing and walking, lol

[tanza]

@luzmery928:

O.k thanks. I was writing the above ? as you were answering it. Hounds..that's funny it sounds so not like a basenji (eventhough I know they are sighthounds) there should be a nobel division or stud divison to describe there way of posing and walking, lol

Really they are total hounds.. or you could easily put them in the Terrier Group

[Barklessdog]

They are considered sight hounds, shown in the hound group at dog shows, along with Wippets Greyhounds & Afgans. Fast running dogs with good vision.

Really they are an all around good hound. Great sense of Smell, pointer (mine does) Bird dog (good at catching birds) and fast running sight hounds. Great attributes for a hunting dog, but not so much for a pet.

[luzmery928]

Yeah my B ran off one day and found a bird he pawed at it and the bird came down, he nipped it and kind of stood off to the side waiting for it to continue with the play. Dosen't grasp the concept of the whole hunting thing yet judt kind of wanted to play.

[tanza]

@Barklessdog:

They are considered sight hounds, shown in the hound group at dog shows, along with Wippets Greyhounds & Afgans. Fast running dogs with good vision.

Really they are an all around good hound. Great sense of Smell, pointer (mine does) Bird dog (good at catching birds) and fast running sight hounds. Great attributes for a hunting dog, but not so much for a pet.

I don't agree at all, they make wonderful pets… but for the right owners/family. While I love showing and coursing and all are conformation ring champions and lure champions.. they are my pets first...

[Barklessdog]

I don't agree at all, they make wonderful pets… but for the right owners/family

Why a good hound does not make good pet. They can smell food, tissues, dirty clothes, anywhere. On counters if they can't see they smell it. Our girl will use her paws pull anything off a counter to get to food. Everything has to be locked away or way up high. They have super senses.

Great sight & hearing, they can hear you sneak into the refridgerator to get lunch meat, ice cream from another floor with the TV on!.

Speed- they get something you can forget about catching them!

Did I say they are sneeky little theives? Ours sneak up behind you, while working on pumbing or something your really focused on, steal the directions, carry them off to be shredded before you know what happened, steal your glasses to be chewed up (fun searching for them when you can't see and have no idea where they left them!) a part you need to assemble or the classic sneakup behind you and steal a tissue from your pocket!

Yes they do make great pets, but there is a learning curve they teach you!

There are advantages to pugs & bull dogs you know!

[Barklessdog]

Dosen't grasp the concept of the whole hunting thing yet judt kind of wanted to play.

Our male has not a clue how to kill. He catches squirrels and they bite him all up till his covered in his own blood.

Our African female kills animal instinctively, delivering a death bite quickly, then gobbles them up before they know what happened.

She killed and ate 9 babies bunnies that nested in our yard. All at once! they were running everywhere, my wife is freaking out, we can't catch the dog or the bunnies. It was a slaughter. We only saved one bunny using a pond net.

Bunnies are natures candy though.

[lvoss]

@Barklessdog:

Why a good hound does not make good pet. They can smell food, tissues, dirty clothes, anywhere. On counters if they can't see they smell it. Our girl will use her paws pull anything off a counter to get to food. Everything has to be locked away or way up high. They have super senses.

Over the last 3 years, I have moved from just working on training my own dogs to being an apprentice dog trainer. I have had the opportunity to meet many dogs and owners. My basenjis can be naughty but the reality is that for the most part they are really good housedogs. Dogs come with a lot of hardwiring, and most breeds will counter surf, shred tissues, chew shoes, etc without training. In fact, many dogs who are given up for behavior are given up specifically because they do all these things since they never learned the rules of the game.

Can basenjis be more distracted by sensory input like sight, smell and sound than other breeds? Absolutely, but it doesn't mean they don't make great pets. In fact, one thing about my basenjis that I love is that they love being with me without being clingy. Also, with positive reinforcement training techniques, they really love to work. My girls have been taking turns at summer camp this week. The kids love to see them hit the agility course and are amazed at how great they are at Attention. Nicky and Rally have been wonderful demo dogs for my rally obedience class. This weekend they all will all get a chance to indulge their hardwiring to chase a little and do some lure coursing.

I just don't think that being hounds makes them less great pets but a person has to like the traits that make them hounds. That is one of the real advantages of purebred dogs, if you don't like the hardwiring for that breed, look for a breed with the hardwiring you do like.

[Barklessdog]

The kids love to see them hit the agility course and are amazed at how great they are at Attention.

Anyone who can have a Basenji do agility is a really good trainer. My hats off to you!

I wish you lived in Chicago, I would love to see your dogs perform.

I went to christmas party where they had a big Lab that just sat right next to the food table a few feet away. He sat upright right in front of a huge pile of all different kinds of lunch meats, not moving with no owner in sight. He sat there like that forever!

Could you get a basenji to do that?

I bet you could if you can get them to do agility.

[luzmery928]

I will tell you that I love my B to death and I love him as a package and don't see too much of a negative thing about him but yes i have wanted to pull my hair out at many times but like any other pet there are hurdles and barriers to go through but at the end you have this lovable, big eyes, curly tail, furry child that completly captured my heart, my families heart and anyone whoever has an encounter with him. I walk down the street and ppl call his name out, same when I go to my in-laws house. Pet, what pet, he is a member of my family and I am definetly addicted!

[tanza]

@Barklessdog:

Anyone who can have a Basenji do agility is a really good trainer. My hats off to you!

I wish you lived in Chicago, I would love to see your dogs perform.

I went to christmas party where they had a big Lab that just sat right next to the food table a few feet away. He sat upright right in front of a huge pile of all different kinds of lunch meats, not moving with no owner in sight. He sat there like that forever!

Could you get a basenji to do that?

I bet you could if you can get them to do agility.

Yes, you can get a Basenji to do that, but like the Lab it takes time.. I am sure there was lots of training that went into that lab not going after the food….. and I have seen my share of Labs that would have cleared that table in 3 seconds flat...:D

[tanza]

And While I don't do agility myself, my puppy owners have and do… both Obedience and Agility...(visit http://www.tanzabasenjis.net/News.html and see a picture of Lucy in agility) so with time and training they can learn… I totally agree with Lisa, the reason most dogs are given up is that they have never been trained... or people have gotten the wrong breed of dog for their family. I think that Andrea remarked on it quite well with the different levels of dogs.

[Basenji_Boy]

I just don't think that being hounds makes them less great pets but a person has to like the traits that make them hounds. That is one of the real advantages of purebred dogs, if you don't like the hardwiring for that breed, look for a breed with the hardwiring you do like.

Very well said. For me, I've had a hunting dog(pointer) before and wanted those traits in a smaller dog with hound qualities.

[lvoss]

@tanza:

Yes, you can get a Basenji to do that, but like the Lab it takes time.. I am sure there was lots of training that went into that lab not going after the food….. and I have seen my share of Labs that would have cleared that table in 3 seconds flat...:D

Exactly, it is all in how much time you want to put into training a behavior. For most people it is far easier to put up a babygate blocking the dining room and teach the dog to respect the barrier then it is train the dog not to clear the table of food. Each person has to decide what behaviors are really important to them and then reinforce them.

As for agility training, there are more and more basenji owners doing agility. It is a fun sport and the dogs really do enjoy it. As with anything the more time you can put into it the better the results you will get. I think the hardest part is finding a trainer that understands that there is no such thing as one size fits all training. Not all dogs learn the same just like not all humans learn the same. As a handler you just have to have a sense of humor for those days when the dog decides it can't possibly go through any round objects or that the purpose of the A frame is to stare at goats in the field, or any other quirk they come up with. But that goes for any training not just agility and not just for basenjis.

Here are some East Coast basenjis that do agility, http://apubasenjis.com/BasenjisAgility.html

[srjeeper]

**I don't feel any breed should be chosen for what it may be made into. It should be choosen for the way it is.

My B's had me trained in almost no time at all, just the way I was/is. :D**

[tanza]

@srjeeper:

**I don't feel any breed should be chosen for what it may be made into. It should be choosen for the way it is.

My B's had me trained in almost no time at all, just the way I was/is. :D**

Well I do agree about the "B's had me trained" part…