I welcome you also. Puppies are so adorable. Just remember a quiet Basenji is not necessarily a good thing. After all these years I still forget that one.
Hopeful Basenji Owner!
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@gigi said in Hopeful Basenji Owner!:
@debradownsouth Well, it seemed that you like blunt honesty, so that's what you got. . . I’m not investing any more of my valuable time on this, I made my point – and I believe you got it.
No dear, I got a personal abuse tirade having nothing to do with dogs or basenjis, just you demonstrating that you are hypocritical and carry far more nastiness than I do. ...but with far less honesty about it. Blunt is fine, just don't delude yourself into thinking making a personal tirade is about being blunt, lol. It's about being nasty and trying to justify it as anything more. I am glad you're done with me. Time wasted having nothing to do with dogs.
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You can keep posting, but as I said at your last rant, your words about bloodied and bruised children is all I need to post.
As for the rest. .. read slowly so you grasp it.
There is training and there is applying protection for your children. One doesn't exclude the other. You might want to ask your behaviorist if that really is confusing to you and you're not just ranting trying to take attention off you bloodied and bruised children. A child's safety takes priority over anything. Since you keep touting that you have a behaviorist and work training daily..albeit with little success, I make no apologies for only giving safety information. It absolutely seems to be utterly lacking.As for saying to put down your dog, silly of you to leave out the part about if you really cannot stop the biting.
I really envy the bubble you live in thinking rescues don't deal with the reality of euthanasia. Many private rescues have the luxury of only taking on adoptable pets, or ones they have foster homes willing to keep forever if necessary. Many so called no kill shelters do the same. For most rescues, even if they don't personally put animals down, they reject dogs that they know will be euthanized. In my real world, people in rescue are experienced and responsible enough to know every dog cannot be saved.
Save your rants. I will never feel any regret for caring about the safety of dogs...or being appalled at your own repeated nonchalance about it.
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Lol thought you were done?
Not worth responding to you spewing same stuff over and over. But so you don't look uninformed next time you accuse someone of slander..since his legal issues, her totally twisted lies about a respected researcher, etc are all provable in public domain...you may want to review the definition of slander.
Yawn.It's become obvious you are beyond obsessed, going thread to thread with personal attacks. Your initial "nice" facade was just a very angry person waiting for justification to spend all her time raving instead of contributing. Glad to be of assistance as you prove that you believe you personal attacks are okay...but my concerns about basenjis and safety (you do remember this is a basenji board, right? Not a personal crusade to tell someone you hate their posts over and over ad nauseam?) are out of line.
But I'll be the adult. You can go on til you get it out of you system or tire of repetitive raving.
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I hit reply just as I did now...but well may have accidentally hit your post. Kindle far to small for me. Sorry you got so agitated.
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@gigi said in Hopeful Basenji Owner!:
@debradownsouth I was done, but you won't shut up. ...
Good luck to members in here, I'm off to my other pet forums to warn them about the link lunatic on the Basenji Forums. Now, I really am done.Yep, obsessed. Needs last word terribly.
Btw, link lunatic, catchy. In the early AOL days, we had a group called "linkohaulics" ..people who believed sharing expert/research info was often more valuable than spewing out opinions on factual topics. We're all still friends..thanks for the new tagline!
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@vizzy Has your basenji research turned up info regarding Fanconi Syndrome? Please, please ensure the breeder you select is reputable, tests all stock, and has a reputation for breeding healthy stock with sound temperament! If you'll be leaving the pup alone while you go to work each day, consider getting two: basenjis are notorious for separation anxiety. Solo basenjis are some of the most anxious dogs on the planet...
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@yodelma - Total agreement with finding a responsible breeder. If you go to www.basenji.org (Basenji Club of America) there is much good information on how to find a responsible breeder.
I disagree that Basenjis are notorious for separation anxiety.. I believe that can be said for any breed of dog. Yes maybe some more than others, but "notorious"?
As a breeder, I do not recommend getting two at the same time and particularly littermates. Littermates have been in competition with each other from day 1. The compete for millk, food, attention, etc. This can carry over for life. Again, not always, but rule of thumb. Also for new Basenji owners, two might be company for each other, but 2 is double the trouble. And you need to make sure that they bond with the human, not just with each other. You need to work with each separate from the other. -
Thanks to those of you who provided feedback to my original post. Signing off...
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@vizzy said in Hopeful Basenji Owner!
Thanks to those of you who provided feedback to my original post. Signing off...
Did you go meet some? What did you decide on? While I know it's not been the most encouraging response, keep in mind we all have one, so you're not alone if that's what you decide on.
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@tanza Since you're a breeder, you rarely see separation anxiety in your own dogs since you keep several. Furthermore, many of breeders blame owners for separation anxiety, or claim It's a sign of bad breeding/temperament issues. So, needless to say, I disagree with your statement--sep anxiety is a frequent struggle. I don't much care for the idea of purchasing two puppies, but it beats the prospect of one suffering while their family is away from home all day.
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@yodelma - All of my Basenjis are house dogs, be it single or more than one. I don't see it in Basenjis that I have bred and placed.
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I never had separation anxiety in the pups I raised, only the Basenjis I adopted as adults. They both came from situations where they were not the only dog, and that change proved difficult for them to adjust to. In the case of Sunny, he always had had issues with being crated, so that wasn't a surprise, but Perry had never been a problem until he was crated with no company. But to be fair, none of my dogs have spent much crate time, as I transitioned as quickly as possible to having at the very least a whole room with windows, and then to the run of the house with perhaps one or two rooms off limits. I think confinement anxiety is common, and Basenjis may be more likely than some breeds to resist it strenuously rather than just giving up and accepting it.
"In order to get along with a Basenji, you have to be at least half as smart as the dog!"
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@eeeefarm - For Sure eeeefarm..... Windows! That said, then lots of "dog art" on the windows... LOL
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I have had 5 basenjis and I am about to get my 6th. I will have 3 when I pick up my new puppy. My first two were from a terrible breeder and they died young from malabsorption issues. They did suffer from all sorts of anxiety, we got the second because the first one could not be alone without freaking out. We had potty issues and dominance issues. We lasted 6 months did our research and went and got his half sister and that helped a lot. They were still super neurotic dogs. The rest have come from a great breeder and are way more chill. They have all hated to pee in the rain and I think climate seems to have a huge impact on potty training. I live in Canada and my dogs hate winter and they hate the rain, so there is a lot of “go pee now” shouted out the door. Or walking in the rain with them. Match sticking them helped a ton when they were little to help them figure it out. They are a handful but I do really feel that they are better in 2 or more groups, they really are pack animals. We are their pack but we can’t take them everywhere we go. I snuck one into Walmart once! Mine are fine off leash but my first two it was impossible. I am really lucky that I have a huge fully fenced in park with double gates so I don’t have to stress, they have great recall but I wouldn’t take the chance anywhere else. I have baby gates everywhere so they can’t dash out a door, again these ones are fine but my first one ran out the door and was hit by a car and I will never get over that to take the chance again. She was fine, she only broke her toe but it was awful. Mine have all been hunters, I keep telling the local wildlife to stay away from my house of death but they don’t listen, we have had squirrel and bird deaths. And I had a degu, a small rodent, when I first got my basenjis and I had to find them a new home because their days were numbered in this house. On the other hand I wouldn’t ever want any other kind of dog. I have never had a dog I loved more than my basenjis. They love us so much and they are the best cuddlers ever! I also like to hang out on the couch and they are great at that! They are sweet and caring but one of mine will steal any food she can and the other one is dumb and can barely eat the food you give him, he would die in the wild! So you never know what you will get. The only thing you can do is research and be prepared for any eventuality. Good luck getting your basenji.
