• @DebraDownSouth:

    And yes, your pregnant bitch looks wonderfully preggo and I can't wait to see the pics!.

    I can't wait to take more pics! 😉


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    the disappointing part to ME is that instead of getting out there with her and showing HER, and proving she is worthy of being bred, you bred first.

    There is a reason why I am never going to show Lana, but that is a personal reason which I will not discuss further. I do appreciate your opinion, but I am still hoping to show the pup I decide to keep. Either way, thanks for your input, and yes, I will post as many pics as I can once they are born.


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    Having papers is not the test for BYB.

    But newbies, well we need to prove our metal first or risk snarky people like me calling us on it. I had my bitch evaluated by 3 breeders and TWO judges, and looking back I will always regret not titling her first. Again, before the internet, before I knew better. I am just pointing out we all make errors and I am far from perfect. And I got crucified generations later, even with my line at Westminster and invitationals. And you know what, I look them in the eye and say "You are right. I messed up." And move on.

    .

    Deb, I don't think the above applies in Basenjis. I know very many people that had a nice pet, not finished, never shown that started a successful, well respected breeding program…and no one ever crucified them. And I have known some people with an adequate dog that they struggled to finish spending a ton of money, and time who eventually used that dog to start a successful, wel respected breeding program...again, never crucified. It certainly isn't the easiest way to reach the goal, but it is possible...and if someone is committed to learning why should we want to scare them away?


  • Lana looks really well, good luck with the whelping and litter, cant wait to see baby pictures 😃

    I think she is beautiful and she is sure to have gorgeous pups 🙂


  • @Quercus:

    Deb, I don't think the above applies in Basenjis. I know very many people that had a nice pet, not finished, never shown that started a successful, well respected breeding program…and no one ever crucified them. And I have known some people with an adequate dog that they struggled to finish spending a ton of money, and time who eventually used that dog to start a successful, wel respected breeding program...again, never crucified. It certainly isn't the easiest way to reach the goal, but it is possible...and if someone is committed to learning why should we want to scare them away?

    Andrea I think I tried pretty hard to say don't let me scare the person away! And I certainly pointed out the health testing has my admiration. 🙂

    And I am not saying what you said isn't true about becoming a respected breeder.. in fact it is true in ALL breeds I am sure. Nor, btw, do I think if you have to spend a fortune to finish a dog that is marginal it is any better than the pet owner with a better dog who simply didn't have the money to finish. And both a heck of a lot better than those who have the titles but don't health test or do and don't report the bad results! I just mean breeding a pet without proving it is not the best way.

    But I have to say as limited of time as I have spent with Basenji breeders, I have heard many comments about breeding pets, calling people "glorified puppy mills" (even with titles and testing), accusations of hidden genetic issues, paying/bribing/politics to finish champions, breeding unfit dogs etc. I think Basenji breeders are overall a nice bunch, but to suggest there are not harsh judgments and snarking isn't reality.

    And again, I am heartened by her commitment to finding a good stud, stand behind her pups, and do all the testing. That's a very good start. So again, don't be put off by me. 🙂


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    Andrea I think I tried pretty hard to say don't let me scare the person away! And I certainly pointed out the health testing has my admiration. 🙂

    And I am not saying what you said isn't true about becoming a respected breeder.. in fact it is true in ALL breeds I am sure. Nor, btw, do I think if you have to spend a fortune to finish a dog that is marginal it is any better than the pet owner with a better dog who simply didn't have the money to finish. And both a heck of a lot better than those who have the titles but don't health test or do and don't report the bad results! I just mean breeding a pet without proving it is not the best way.

    But I have to say as limited of time as I have spent with Basenji breeders, I have heard many comments about breeding pets, calling people "glorified puppy mills" (even with titles and testing), accusations of hidden genetic issues, paying/bribing/politics to finish champions, breeding unfit dogs etc. I think Basenji breeders are overall a nice bunch, but to suggest there are not harsh judgments and snarking isn't reality.

    And again, I am heartened by her commitment to finding a good stud, stand behind her pups, and do all the testing. That's a very good start. So again, don't be put off by me. 🙂

    Of course there are always people in any sport, group, society or otherwise that are willing to imagine the worst, or succumb to jealousy, or participate in bashing just for sport…but in the basenji world, most bashing is kept between friends, or quietly mentioned in innuendo....not what I would call crucifying. People in any breed who plan to have successful breeding programs need to have a thick skin for criticism by their rivals...and they need to be able to stand behind their decisions. But, from what I have seen MOST other breeds have far more outward nastiness than ours.


  • Andrea, I agree. I have had nothing but good experiences with Basenji breeders!


  • How is Lana doing? Could be any day now?


  • @tanza:

    How is Lana doing? Could be any day now?

    We are expecting any hour now, not just any day 🙂

    Mama is doing great, very healthy, very round. I am a little nervous to deliver, but other than that, very excited and happy and looking forward to it. Will post new pics soon.

  • Houston

    Nice to hear, please do keep us posted…keeping fingers crossed for a safe delivery...


  • Hope all goes well, cant wait to see pictures 🙂

  • First Basenji's

    what a smashing few pictures hope all goes well for you all wingco. x:)


  • @diff_eqs:

    We are expecting any hour now, not just any day 🙂

    Mama is doing great, very healthy, very round. I am a little nervous to deliver, but other than that, very excited and happy and looking forward to it. Will post new pics soon.

    Any updates?


  • Not yet…

    I will post as soon as there is something...


  • You can call me if you are having problems.. but the best would be to go to your local ER…..

    Call me .... I know that Terri works a second shift at work and might not be available


  • Thanks Pat, I appreciate it! I do have a cell phone number for our vet, and I can call her anytime too.

    I hope everything will be ok though!


  • Any puppies yet?


  • A little bird (Terri) told me today that Lana had her puppies yesterday…. Yipee!!! I would assume they were all reds, since Slim Shady is pure for red.... let us know how it is going and how many girls/boys you have?


  • Congratulations! Hope everything is ok with mom and the babies 🙂


  • yeah! 😃
    Congrats 🙂

    Pics soon I hope? haha 😃

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