Katy Texas Basenjis

[Heinz57]

She says she'd be willing to test the puppy we'd like to buy for fanconi. I told her it'd be easier and better if she just tested the mother.

[Heinz57]

It's not that she's not familiar with fanconi. I think she didn't test because her vet said not to.

[tanza]

@Heinz57:

Is anyone familiar with them? The lady's name is Mary. I spoke with her recently and she's been breeding for a few years. Her current litter has not been tested for fanconi and neither has the mother. The father has. She said her vet doesn't think it's necessary to test for it. She said she'd check into it and possibly get the mom tested.

So my first question would be, did you verify at www.offa.org that the sire of the litter was tested? He would be listed in the OFA database and again, what were the results of the test? Clear/Ind/Carrier? Only if you have done that, do you know for sure. They may think you mean were they strip tested… not DNA tested.

And if verified again, what are the results? If Clear then even if the Bitch is Affected they would only produce Carriers and yes, that means they should not get Fanconi, however what if IND or Carrier? If untested Bitch then they could all be Affected? Obviously if not test, no way of knowing.

This is a breeder that I would not recommend even if they did test the Bitch as they obviously have not done any other health testing either

[tanza]

@Heinz57:

It's not that she's not familiar with fanconi. I think she didn't test because her vet said not to.

Not a good enough reason, it is a breeders responsibility to reseach and know the health concerns of a breed, not to depend on the Vet… because as we all know here, there are many Vets that have never even heard of Fanconi let alone the DNA test. Remember the DNA test is NOT done by a Vet, it is done by the owners via a cheek swab.

[DebraDownSouth]

What Pat said.

Now for a Debraly observation. Run. Really. Do not put money into a back yard breeder's hands. Even if you find the sire has been tested, even tho that means your puppy is probably fine, don't put money into the hands of a byb. Find a responsible breeder or go through BRAT rescue. Be nice, tell her why you won't be getting a dog from her, and encourage her to look up BCOA, educate herself, and stop producing puppies.

OR, educate her, take a puppy (if sire is indeed clear) at a greatly reduced price so she isn't making much or any profit.

[YodelDogs]

If you haven't already, I would recommend that you visit the Basenji Club of America's breeder directory. You will find breeders all over the US who are very responsible and ethical.

http://tinyurl.com/2vjmpjl

[curlytails]

@DebraDownSouth:

Run. Really. Do not put money into a back yard breeder's hands. Even if you find the sire has been tested, even tho that means your puppy is probably fine, don't put money into the hands of a byb. Find a responsible breeder or go through BRAT rescue. Be nice, tell her why you won't be getting a dog from her, and encourage her to look up BCOA, educate herself, and stop producing puppies.

Agreed.
And please, do tell her why you won't be getting a puppy from her. You don't need to be angry about it (though it IS an aggravating situation!), but I think the breeder needs to know that you didn't just walk away because you're "not interested," but that not all buyers are so easily duped. Hopefully it might deter her from doing this again.

[BendaTXBRAT]

@Heinz57:

It's not that she's not familiar with fanconi. I think she didn't test because her vet said not to.

If she was very familier with fanconi, she would have insisted on fanconi testing, just like the rest of us do, and she would have gotten it done to begin with just like the rest of the reputable breeders do.

Just making that point!

[Heinz57]

She could very well be a BYB. She seemed to know what it was when I asked if the dogs had been tested. Either way, I don't think I will be buying from her.

[tanza]

@Heinz57:

She could very well be a BYB. She seemed to know what it was when I asked if the dogs had been tested. Either way, I don't think I will be buying from her.

Knowing what it is (Fanconi) and not testing, tells me that this is a pure for profit breeder. Cares more about the money then breeding healthly Basenjis.

Just my opinion

[Basenjimamma]

She is BAD news..last year she had 5 litters, all of 25 basenji puppies, under a different name, bluebonnet basenji or something like that…stay away...
I am pretty sure she is the one..hope I am wrong though..

as a side not..a reputable, responsible breeder knows all about Fanconi and does not rely on a vet to recommend testing..