Always nice to see photos of lots of Basenji playing, you are sooo lucky to have a group to go walking with.
Jolanda and Kaiser
New BABY B girl!
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This "breeder" has poached the name. These dogs are NOT true Cambria dogs. I had thought that BCOA had petitioned AKC to protect the name from this unethical use but I can't remember if AKC approved retiring the name.
Yes, I thought AKC voted to restrict the kennel name in 2004, that why I asked how it was possible. Was the restriction reversed?
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I looked it up, and AKC did agree to retire Cambria in the basenji breed.
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No, it was not reversed and if a registration is submitted with the name it should be rejected by AKC.
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Lisa is right.
If you send in the registration with that name, they will send you a letter stating that the kennel name is registered and it requires a signature of the owner.
Since the main breeder of the Cambria prefix has since passed, that won't be happening
So, you can't register her with that name.
I do agree with everyone else… WHY bother with a puppy that COULD easily become fanconi affected?
You did health test your own girl...
why not just find a breeder that has health-tested their sire/dam and get a puppy from them?
Or wait and breed your girl next cycle.If you need some reading material, I'd be happy to share with you many Fanconi articles... some I have written and some by other folks.
You may want to look closer at what it is like to live with a Fanconi affected basenji. It is NOT fun.I would love to tell you have fun... but I think you are making a huge mistake that you could very well wish you had listened to the many voices of reason.
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She is beautifull!
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Registered name is Cambria's Red Arrow, house name is going to be Strelka, meaning "little arrow" in Russian. My mom used to have a dog when she was a kid, her name was Strelka. She was a basenji-type or a shiba-type mutt, brown with white socks and a curly tail. This name in Russia is considered very appropriate for dogs with pointy nose and ears…
Why would you even want to consider buying a puppy from someone who is so thoughtless as to poach a well known kennel name. And it is not like this person is unknowing of the Cambria line…
And would you really be able to give up that pup if the test turn out badly?
Added to the lists of tests, you should also take her to a board certified veterinarian ophthalmologist for a full eye exam. Can be done at 8/9 wks for things like Coloboma, Cataracts (both Juvenile and Regular) (which can develop as early as two months of age) and PPM. However something like PRA (and causes blindness) is late onset and there is no test, so without health background you would never know the possibilities.
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I am shaking my head right now. The Fanconi test is only $65 and only has to be done once in a dog's lifetime. These people have been known to crank out 8 or more litters of Basenjis some years. There is no reason why they can't afford to pay for Fanconi testing at least.
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I am shaking my head right now. The Fanconi test is only $65 and only has to be done once in a dog's lifetime. These people have been known to crank out 8 or more litters of Basenjis some years. There is no reason why they can't afford to pay for Fanconi testing at least.
Great point Robyn. And I hope that all our comments are taken as legit reasons to really think about getting this pup before you do so. You have tried to do all the right things when you were considering breeding, testing, finding a mentor, all which is super… to then lower your standards and go to a BYB with no health testing is really a big step backwards.
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I am shaking my head right now.
Me too. This is sad. You'd think someone who's spent significant time on this forum would know better. Do you really want to support those breeding practices?
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This "breeder" has poached the name. These dogs are NOT true Cambria dogs. I had thought that BCOA had petitioned AKC to protect the name from this unethical use but I can't remember if AKC approved retiring the name.
I am well aware of them NOT being the true Cambria dogs. I did enough research. However, Sandy has been using this name for over 20 years, and she highly recommended for me to continue that practice, and no, the name has not been retired.
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Do you really not have a response to previous posts regarding your decision to go with this breeder? Nothing? You feel comfortable getting a puppy that was bred for profit?
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What I don't understand is why some people on this forum take it upon themselves to put other people down, when they post pictures of "questionable" purebreds or mixes. I was trying to share the joy of getting another puppy, just like everyone else does, and instead I get all this "head-shaking" and saying that it was really irresponsible of me to do that, all of that just based on a single "potential" name that I "might" register, which I am not even sure about. As of right now I am not planning on breeding this dog, as of right now it is strictly a pet animal, so the lineage does not matter much. And if I do decide to show or breed, I am going to take all the precautions as I did when I bred Lana, including doing all the tests and the vet certifications. And by the way, Lana does not have that awesome of lineage either, so I did my research to find a compatible sire that would amend all the little issues that she has. I believe that is the meaning of "responsibility" as far as supporting the breed is concerned. As far as me being irresponsible as a buyer, I had my reasons, which have to do with my family. I am not trying to be an b***h here, but at the end the decision is mine. Also, I have read about the breed enough to know what is important and what is not. The last thing I want to do is start breeding dogs that would "dirty up" the breed. That said, I am excited about having another puppy in the family and a companion for Lana.
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Strelka is a little beauty and i wish you all the best. Please post lots of pics when you get her, it will keep me going untill we get our Pup in about 5 weeks
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Whether the puppy is a "just" a pet or not really does not make it any less important to strive to get the best quality health and temperament. In fact, I really cannot understand the attitude that because animal is going to be "just" a pet all care for quality should go right out the window. All my dogs are pets (companions) first and foremost. They are part of my family, and not just my household, my whole family, when I visit relatives they ask how they are doing. My grandparents and aunts have come on vacation to dog shows with us. As such, I want them to be as healthy as possible for as long as possible. My eldest is now 12 years old, and you can see the gray on him and I know that I have less years left with him than I have already spent with him. I am glad that I did my homework though before I got him and chose a line with dogs that lived into their teens because I don't want to say goodbye anytime soon. So here I am finding myself wiping tears out of my eyes because I am thinking of my dogs' mortality and thinking of how my grandmother who just passed in December even 3 days before her death was still telling everyone stories of Nicky and his ability to wail like banshee when he felt he was abondoned with strangers and I just can't grasp how anyone would cheat themselves of that time or those memories by not doing everything they could to find a breeder who breeds for health, temperament, longevity.
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Wow, this topic is turning nasty.
Can't you just be happy for diff_eqs?
Anyways, congrats, and she looks beautiful!
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If everybody went to all the same breeders for their dogs, wouldn't that narrow the gene pool? We see people bring dogs back from Africa purported to be Basenji but that look like village mutts to me…in order to expand the genetics. What I heard at that discussion was the more the merrier and everyone gushing over three dogs that might have B in them.
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Yes, I thought AKC voted to restrict the kennel name in 2004, that why I asked how it was possible. Was the restriction reversed?
This is what I remember as well.
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@AJs:
If everybody went to all the same breeders for their dogs, wouldn't that narrow the gene pool? We see people bring dogs back from Africa purported to be Basenji but that look like village mutts to me…in order to expand the genetics. What I heard at that discussion was the more the merrier and everyone gushing over three dogs that might have B in them.
If DiffEqs is happy with her puppy, I am happy for her. Hope to see lots of photos.you are comparing apples and oranges. The issue here is that someone is supporting a breeder that is known for breeding for profit, not to preserve the heritage of the breed. Breeding dogs that are not tested for Fanconi status is not, in any way, being a steward of the breed.
Going to Africa and importing dogs that are phenotypically, and most likely genotypically basenjis, is good for the health and diversity, and future of the breed. All dogs that are imported and considered for inclusion in the AKC studbook have passed the genetic tests available for the breed recommendations.
I too hope that diffeqs is happy with her puppy
but this thread will be read by lots of people that will never comment on it, and it is important that the message gets out there that no one should be buying puppies from untested parents; and no one should be shelling over money to people breeding puppies for profit. -
Wow, this topic is turning nasty.
Can't you just be happy for diff_eqs?
Anyways, congrats, and she looks beautiful!
Some people are just crazy :p When i first came on here i almost felt judged that i didn't have a purebred basenji, not cool at all…this should be a place for learning and sharing about the breed....not gettin gon someones case just because it came from a bad breeder or she thought of a cool name...w/e I hope Diff_eqs has a great time with her new pup and I hope to see lots and lots of photos! Congrats!!
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Some people are just crazy :p When i first came on here i almost felt judged that i didn't have a purebred basenji, not cool at all…this should be a place for learning and sharing about the breed....not gettin gon someones case just because it came from a bad breeder or she thought of a cool name...w/e I hope Diff_eqs has a great time with her new pup and I hope to see lots and lots of photos! Congrats!!
Apparently, lots of people come to this forum, and think the same way, especially in the beginning. It definitely is a place for learning and sharing about the breed…but sometimes there is education that needs to happen in a forum like this, that may hurt someone's feelings. No one likes to be told they made a poor decision...but by pointing out WHY it is a bad decision, we might be able to help someone else before they purchase, and fall in love with their puppy, who turns out to die of complications of Fanconi before they have had the dog for seven years.
When you come to a forum like this, you can pick and choose what you want to read...but you can't pick and choose what other people want to say. This IS education, even if you don't think it is valuable to you...other people might...
