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[pedro]

thks ivoss!. it will run me if he starts to show anythang, it will run me 1,366!!. FOR A YR!.

[pedro]

sorry i made a mistake it's 1,958.00 A YR!. FOR ALL MEDICAL STUFF!!.

[dcmclcm4]

Is your dog currently spilling glucose, is there currently glucose in the urine? If not, your dog will not develop Fanconi until later. The average age of diagnosis is 6-7 years old although some dogs develop it sooner and some later. You will not start treatment until there are symptoms, usually glucose in the urine. I verify the glucose in the urine by a urine test at the vet. You will then need to rule out Diabetes as dogs with Diabetes also have glucose in the urine. Your dog will need to have a blood glucose test and if that is within normal range, your dog has Fanconi, if it is high then your dog has Diabetes. If Fanconi, your dog will then need to have a blood gas test and a complete blood workup. Your dog will then go on the Fanconi Protocol and there is a chart on the Protocol that tells you how many bicarbonate pills your dog will need to take.

Here is the Protocol that you need to have and also give to your vet:

http://basenjicompanions.org/health/images/Protocol2003.html

Costs do vary around the country and some vets do not have the equipment to do a blood gas test. I am in SW OH and my vet does not charge that much for a blood gas test but when I lived in Houston all the tests cost more than in OH.

Some dogs have to take more pills and supplements then others. My Missy, who is 11 years old, takes a total of 17-18 pills a day, including thyroid which some dogs do not need, plus supplements that get added to her food. She takes 10 sodium bicarbs a day, 5 in the morning and 5 at night. She is doing great on the Protocol.

[pedro]

hi he had the ofa.org fanconi test done and it came back at rick, i talked to john at the office there and he said he has it but isn't showing any signs yet!. but my question now is why wait till the simtoms start to show why not statr the treatments before they start to show! if they have been shown to have the fanconi!!.??

[lvoss]

There is nothing to treat until symptoms show. The protocol helps to treat the symptoms it does not fix the problem. There is no cure for Fanconi.

[pedro]

hi, i understand that it dont'cure the problem, but seen as i did the test and taked to john at the ofa office and he told me it's just a matter of time till i start to see signs of it,! wouldn't it be better to start him on some stuff now instead of waiting for signs to show>?? like a high quality -low protain diet on his food , to start now!?. but don't start any meds till the signs show so i know the amount to get him on!.

[lvoss]

You should consult or have your vet consult with Dr Gonto about what the best course of action is. I don't think a low protein food is recommended for all Fanconi dogs. A high quality food is good for all dogs in maintaining good health.

[pedro]

well wait… i have some more research i did and it's saying to put the dog on a high qulity, low protein food!. is saying that part of the food stuff is the way to teat the syndrome.

[pedro]

i got the information on the wed site… http;//www.caninegeneticdiseases.net/fanconi/FANbasic.htm

[tanza]

@pedro:

well wait… i have some more research i did and it's saying to put the dog on a high qulity, low protein food!. is saying that part of the food stuff is the way to teat the syndrome.

Please read carefully, it is when the dog shows symptoms, NOT BEFORE. Just because he test Prob Affected, this is a LATE onset issue and can show up anytime between 3yrs and 12yrs.. usual being around 6 or 7.

There is NOTHING to treat before he shows symptoms

[pedro]

K!, but would it hurt to put him on a high qualiy low -protein diet. or show i wait till he shows berofe putting him on that kind of food!!???

[pedro]

what does high quality and high protein dog food do for the dog?. and what is the difference on the food!>??

[lvoss]

High quality proteins are easily digested and do not tax the kidneys as much as lower quality proteins.

[pedro]

i feel sooo darn stupid.! i didnt read it carefully tanza!, there put on a high qualiy, low -protein dies with medication being USED TOO!!!> I FEEL SOOOO STUPID!!. SORRY TANZA I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO HELP HIM BEFORE HE SHOWS SIGNS!!. I HATE THIS TO SIT AND WAIT FOR THE SIGNS TO SHOW!!. IT ERRKS ME BADLY!!.HE SURE DOES LIKE THE LOW PROTEIN FOOD!. HES'GOING TO TOWN ON IT!!,..P,S DO UR B'S TIP THERE FOOD BOWLS?!. HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME!.

[pedro]

Ohhhhhh! I didnt know that the lady at the pet shop wanted me to try this with him and he love's it but no more till signs show!!!. Thanks ivoss!!!!!!!!!!!!!>

[pedro]

Shes'trying to work with me ! Now that tells me differ because she does know about this with the food!!!!!!!!!!!!!>im just going to go up there and tell her iwant my money back!!!!. Or i'm going to sue!!. I'm not going to play games about this anylonger! It's either my money back or law suit!! !.

[pedro]

holy cow i thank i just broke a record here with him!!.i is food aggressave, but today he eat some of his food!, then went to lay down but the cat likes it too, so the cat when over to eat and he come over to her and layed down by her and watched her eat a little of it WITHOUT GETTING MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[sharronhurlbut]

Pedro, your boy isn't sick YET. So, get him on the food Pat recommends and strip test his pee every few days. Do this until you see the color change. THAT is when you need to do the suppliments for him.

[pedro]

what was the food that pat wanted me to get him on??. was it a high qulity low protein ot high qulity and high protein??>! i have the strip and i have started testing him. but how offten should i strip test!??.

[tanza]

@pedro:

what was the food that pat wanted me to get him on??. was it a high qulity low protein ot high qulity and high protein??>! i have the strip and i have started testing him. but how offten should i strip test!??.

Honestly, any good quality food is good and if you are concerned about protein, go with one that is moderate

Strip test at least once a month for about 3 to 4 days in a row