13 week old puppy on Craigslist

[tanza]

@westcoastflea1:

dont know
i just got an email asking me to foster a dog coming from a breeders home
at least two others from the same person are being put into foster care as well

And not all breeders are responsible…. if they are BYB's they are not going to be responsible.... So don't lump all breeders into one basket. Responsible breeders take their pups back, no questions asked... unless there is a health or another good reason. And in that case, provided the problems are not totally financial, they should put up money for the dogs care.

[dmcarty]

My point exactly - BRAT and I had a 'difference of opinion a few years ago over lumping all 'breeders' together' If it is a real breeder in trouble - lets help - if it's a BYB in trouble - I believe we need to help each other before we help puppy mills and BYB.

[westcoastflea1]

shes a real breeder not a backyard breeder im told she has health issues cant handle the dogs shes keeping a puppy

[dmcarty]

I hope that she contacted some of the rest of us - we always try to help each other out.

[westcoastflea1]

i dont know who she may have contacted
i dont believe shes a member here so she may not have known of the support she might have found here.

im looking forward to meeting bunny next week (name is definitely going to be changed)
shes a 4 year old tri who is being spayed next week had at least one litter
shes a counter surfer, spends alot of time in her crate, doesnt know how to walk on a leash or let her people know when she needs to go outside so im sure ill be here looking for support from all of you to help prepare her for adoption

[agilebasenji]

@westcoastflea1:

shes a real breeder not a backyard breeder im told she has health issues cant handle the dogs shes keeping a puppy

why, if you had health problems, would you keep a puppy (instead of an older, easier dog) ? Bless you for helping her out though.

[lvoss]

I think Diane means the rest of the basenji breeder community, not neccesarily this forum. If she is a responsible breeder, involved in the basenji community, the community would step up to help her out if she let people know she needed the help.

[westcoastflea1]

lots of breeders on this forum which is why if she was a member she may have found help here rather then going thru the rescue
not sure why the east coast basenji breeders werent able to help but maybe she didnt ask
not sure about the puppy thing either im sure there must be a good reason, personally i wouldnt give up an adult bonded dog to keep a puppy but…

[dmcarty]

I can't imagine that a responsible breeder would have a dog that spent all it's time in a crate and couldn't walk on a leash - either.

[sharronhurlbut]

I am glad someone is going to meet this b and help her out.

[Heinz57]

I've seen "BYB" a lot around here. What does it stand for?

[westcoastflea1]

yes it should be fun, i hope

hoping that "the dog doesnt know how to ask to go outside" doesnt mean she isnt housetrained ):

she is crate trained so that will be a plus if there are any problems, not that i ever needed to use a crate with my first b but…. from what ive read on this forum it might be a useful tool

hopefully i wont be housebound with her like i was with sebastian

just hoping that she will enjoy lots of time at the dog park, sleeping in my bed, getting to go for walks etc etc

since she is a tri im hoping lucy or lola will work for a name

lucy like in charlie brown? dark and a tomboy with an attitude

while bunny is a nice enough name i just cant see myself at the dog park calling for bunny

im assuming from what little info ive gathered (breeders first name) that she is from the kenset line
anyone know anything about those bs?

[nomrbddgs]

BYB is Back Yard Breeder.

[tanza]

@westcoastflea1:

yes it should be fun, i hope

hoping that "the dog doesnt know how to ask to go outside" doesnt mean she isnt housetrained ):

she is crate trained so that will be a plus if there are any problems, not that i ever needed to use a crate with my first b but…. from what ive read on this forum it might be a useful tool

hopefully i wont be housebound with her like i was with sebastian

just hoping that she will enjoy lots of time at the dog park, sleeping in my bed, getting to go for walks etc etc

since she is a tri im hoping lucy or lola will work for a name

lucy like in charlie brown? dark and a tomboy with an attitude

while bunny is a nice enough name i just cant see myself at the dog park calling for bunny

im assuming from what little info ive gathered (breeders first name) that she is from the kenset line
anyone know anything about those bs?

Has she been DNA tested for Fanconi? And is she (the breeder) still breeding? If so and she has health problems, she should not be…. nor would I consider that person responsible.

[westcoastflea1]

fairly certain i know where this dog is coming from not 100% but…
ive put the info ive received together and it seems to point to one breeder
if its the breeder i think it is then awhile back someone mentioned that almost all of dogs in her lines come from fanconi free kennels (most of them are from the kenset line )

some testing seems to have been done by this breeder.

im not adopting the dog just fostering til shes adopted.

my info is that she is getting out of breeding because of her health and is going to keep one puppy.
ill meet her on thursday
must be tough to give up your dogs ):

[tanza]

Still good to be safe regardless of the pedigree and have the dogs tested especially if the sire and dam have not yet been. At least, IMO

[sharronhurlbut]

The cheek swab is worth the $$ to do it. It will show you what is going to be happening down the road for any b you might want to own.

[westcoastflea1]

yes it would be good

but its not up to me

and while i know everyone thinks brat should dna test rescues before listing them for adoption i have to say that im really divided on the issue of dna testing rescue basenjis for fanconi

(i know this is soooo politically incorrect)

i understand why an adopter would want to know if the b they are considering adopting has fanconi

and that more then likely 99% of the potential adopters wouldnt take the dog if they were told its positive

but…. what do you do with all the rescue dogs that do test positive for fanconi?

you'd get a huge bottle neck in the system, dogs who test positive languishing in foster care for months and months and years which would keep healthy dogs from getting into foster care and adopted.

not enough foster homes as it is

the only solution to the problems caused by dna testing all dogs in rescue would be to put them down once tested

there simply wouldnt be enough adopters or permanent fosters for the dogs who tested positive

while fanconi testing rescues helps the potential adopters know if the b they have chosen will die of certain illness, not of old age, dna testing does nothing for the rescue dogs who need families
and as much as i hate to say its the basenjis that should come first right?

i know people will say that fanconi is a terrible illness not one you want to go through with your b

my b maya died 5 months after being diagnosed with oral squamous cell cancer, terrible terrible thing, its been over 2 years and im still not over it, but if there had been a test to tell me that this would happen to her would i have opted to not adopt her? NO of course not

im sure a lot of people here have gone thru similar things with their bs and im sure none of them would have opted out having those bs in their lives because they knew how their b would die

so why is fanconi so different?
just because we can test for it?

basenjis with fanconi have the right to live out their lives in a healthy way for as long as they can with their new families dont they?

i believe dna testing rescue basenjis would keep that from happening for most, if not all of them.

boy i got on my soapbox tonight

[sharronhurlbut]

Oh, I am sorry. I thought you were taking this b in for yourself.
Sorry I misunderstood…

[westcoastflea1]

not a problem:)
its good that you want to let new adopters know about fanconi
im just the foster mom for now