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[tanza]

@renaultf1:

When do puppies lose their baby teeth? :D:)

Never soon enough…gggg but usually they start to lose them around 5 months... and the "fangs" are the last to go

[renaultf1]

@tanza:

Never soon enough…gggg but usually they start to lose them around 5 months... and the "fangs" are the last to go

Well at least that is better than the 6 months I was thinking. :D:D:D

[renaultf1]

So Nemo…how is it going today...any change?

[tanza]

@renaultf1:

Well at least that is better than the 6 months I was thinking. :D:D:D

You are right thinking about the 6 months, cause it takes a good month/month and 1/2 for all baby teeth to come out…..

[Janneke]

Congrats with your new pup!! She's adorable! I hope that Nemo will change his mind about Zoni very quickly

[Nemo]

@renaultf1:

So Nemo…how is it going today...any change?

Well, I have to say "what a difference a day makes". They didn't get a chance to interact that much in the morning because I had to take her for her vet check before work. After work, he circled the x-pen and sniffed mostly and only grumbled once or twice. After I let her out, he sniffed her a lot and I let her go and they played for about an hour and a half. Afterwards he corrected her several times (for what I'm not exactly sure) as she was walking around but it was more like I was expecting it to be and not nearly as dramatic as yesterday. Generally he looked a lot more relaxed or at least the hair on his back was only standing up for shorter periods of time. Although I'm curious to see how he reacts once she is able to jump up on the couch and chairs…she's trying really hard. I'm hoping it continues in this direction....

I'd like to say thanks to everyone for the encouragement. I think I would have been even a worse bundle of nerves yesterday if it wasn't for the support and advice on the forum.

[renaultf1]

Excellent!!! It definitely sounds like Nemo is coming around…I'm sure it will only get better. Yay, Nemo! Don't you think it is fascinating watching the communication between Nemo & the pup...especially corrections. I think like Andrea said in the "first 24 hour thread", Nemo is probably telling Zoni to shut up if she is crying at all when he is outside the pen. I'm 100% sure that is what Brando is doing...and it seems to work :D:D:D.

How is she sleeping thru the night?

[Nemo]

@renaultf1:

Excellent!!! It definitely sounds like Nemo is coming around…I'm sure it will only get better. Yay, Nemo! Don't you think it is fascinating watching the communication between Nemo & the pup...especially corrections. I think like Andrea said in the "first 24 hour thread", Nemo is probably telling Zoni to shut up if she is crying at all when he is outside the pen. I'm 100% sure that is what Brando is doing...and it seems to work :D:D:D.

How is she sleeping thru the night?

Today was another good day, so Yay for Nemo again! Hopefully I won't jinx myself here but she has actually been sleeping through the night. She seems to quiet down pretty quickly too in her crate. House training isn't going too bad right now. Only one or two accidents a day. I realized she does much better if I let her outside rather than using the litter box. She seems to deal with the cold okay. But she does use the litter box if she is in the pen. Although she knocks her water bowl over constantly. I'm not sure there is a good solution for that as she surfs the edge of the pen a lot and will end up getting into it no matter how I put it in there.

When Zoni is in the pen she tends to smush herself against the wall and poke parts of her body (like her tongue) through so she can get to Nemo. He really didn't like that previously and only grumbles occasionally now when she does it. He appears to grumble until she looks away from him for a period of time. I agree, the communication is pretty interesting to watch (even though it was a little painful at first). I've never had a very young puppy with an adult before so I haven't been able to watch the dynamic. Definitely a learning experience.

Is yours vocal? Zoni has the cutest little baroo, particularly when she is trying to get Nemo to play with her. I hope I can get it on tape sometime.

[renaultf1]

I'm so glad that things are getting better and better…it is hard when you're in the midst of it to realize that it takes time...I think Pat and Lisa saying that it could take until the baby teeth are out to fully come around is probably pretty accurate.

Don't worry, you are definitely not alone in the noise from the boy department. Brando had two times of full on play with Liyah yesterday, him rolling on his back (which he NEVER does with Ruby) and letting her play on top of him, her biting at his face, him hers...about 20 minutes each time...it was amazing to watch because he was so good with her. But later in the day, he was growling and chasing her down again to keep her in her place. Comes and goes...I can live with that. I only intervene if she starts yelping and doesn't stop (happens about once a day) because I want to check that he didn't actually hurt her...and he never has, she's just a bit dramatic. She is starting to watch him more to read him so that is good, but she is not fearful of him.

I haven't had Brando or Ruby growl at Liyah in her pen since Liyah has discovered the wonder of throwing and rolling around her "Squirrel Dude" that I leave in her crate. They've realized if they hang around the pen that if she throws it, some of the food makes it outside of the xpen...so they get a snack from her! :D:D Her feeding them is doing wonders for their relationship :D:D:D.

Liyah is definitely vocal...but not the barooing kind of vocal yet. ;);) Puppies are so cute when they do it...so that is great that Zoni is a singer! Yes, try to get a video or picture...I love seeing puppies sing.

It sounds like the sleep, crate, housetraining is going well with Zoni...I think we're about the same in those departments.

It is great to be able to compare notes with you since our pups are so close in age! Oh, and what sorts of things are you doing to get Zoni tired at night...I need all the ideas I can get!

[Quercus]

@renaultf1:

For some reason, the noises between and adult and a pup seem a lot worse to me :eek::eek::eek: than all the noise I've heard between my 2 adults…I'm beginning to think that short corrections from an adult don't work on a puppy unless it is good at reading the other dog. But I also think and Pat are right about it being more about "get away from me."

I can appreciate what you're going thru, and how stressful it is...all the noise...my situation doesn't seem quite as nerve racking I think because Ruby evens it all out with her tolerance and acceptance. :o

And the wierd part is that the puppy just doesn't get it (or doesn't care)….it always amazes me how a puppy will just keep going back for more verbal abuse....

[Quercus]

@Nemo:

I can't wait for that! I tried taking pictures of them playing today but they didn't turn out too well. These will have to do for now.

Oh my goodness….she is soooo cute!

[Quercus]

<_>

THAT is *brilliant, and I am going to use that idea next time I have a puppy around. What better than positive reinforcement coming directly FROM the puppy! Love it!

Okay..so rationally it will be a long time before we have a puppy around that is staying...but I am going to file this away for future use!_

[renaultf1]

@Quercus:

And the wierd part is that the puppy just doesn't get it (or doesn't care)….it always amazes me how a puppy will just keep going back for more verbal abuse....

I know…either Liyah forgets about Brando's noise, or doesn't really care in general, because each day is like Groundhog Day around here...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[renaultf1]

@Quercus:

<_>

THAT is *brilliant, and I am going to use that idea next time I have a puppy around. What better than positive reinforcement coming directly FROM the puppy! Love it!

Okay..so rationally it will be a long time before we have a puppy around that is staying...but I am going to file this away for future use!_

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LOL, it is nice to be able to give you something that might help after all the help you've given me :D:D:D. At first I was a little concerned that Brando would start growling at her because she had food, but instead it has gone in her favour! :D:D:D. Maybe I should tie a little treat bag around her all day and then Brando wouldn't care if she came near him :rolleyes::rolleyes:._

[Quercus]

@renaultf1:

LOL, it is nice to be able to give you something that might help after all the help you've given me :D:D:D. At first I was a little concerned that Brando would start growling at her because she had food, but instead it has gone in her favour! :D:D:D. Maybe I should tie a little treat bag around her all day and then Brando wouldn't care if she came near him :rolleyes::rolleyes:.

Ummm..I don't know…he might eat her!

Thanks for the kind words

[Nemo]

@Quercus:

Oh my goodness….she is soooo cute!

Thank you. I think she is absolutely adorable. :D:D:D I wish I could post a video of her but the files are too big and I don't know how to edit them smaller. :mad:

[Nemo]

@renaultf1:

It sounds like the sleep, crate, housetraining is going well with Zoni…I think we're about the same in those departments.

It is great to be able to compare notes with you since our pups are so close in age! Oh, and what sorts of things are you doing to get Zoni tired at night...I need all the ideas I can get!

It is fun to compare notes! It would be funny if Liyah and Zoni are related (within a reasonable number of generations, that is). I just realized that Nemo and Zoni are related about 3-4 generations back.

I really haven't had to do too much to get her sleepy. Nemo seems to take care of that most of the time in the evening. I'll play with her when he isn't interested. They can go for 30 minutes or more. She has been taking a long nap in the evening the last few days. But we start puppy class tomorrow so we'll be working on training a little from then on. Conformation class doesn't officially start till April. We have a basenji puppy match at the end of the month, which I assume means I need to get her reasonably leash trained in the meantime. :rolleyes: And if I can find a lunge whip, I'm going to try to start getting her "coursing genes" activated. I've got this cool unstuffed fox toy that's about 1.5 ft long, that I'm going to attach to the end.

If I can find that "squirrel dude" toy, I might get one of those. Sounds like fun. The buster cube is a bit big.

I think she is finally starting to eat more regularly now. I've been following the 15 minute rule but she usually is pretty distracted and not interested in eating. I waited a little longer tonight to feed her and she actually concentrated on her food for the first time this evening.

[tanza]

Don't worry about her "not" eating… she will not starve herself... puppies go through lots of ... I will not eat... especially when they start teething... and in the end... being consistant now will build good eating habits later on

[wrx227wrc]

I love reading you guys' puppy days of our lives. Its great We will have read tons of pointers by the time we get number two home.