@jengosmonkey
LOL this is a really important convo to be having! I'm honored that it takes place on my thread ๐ and yes, I absolutely agree with the points y'all are making.
People do need to know where their pups are coming from and whether they were responsibly bred. To think of it coldly, I wouldn't buy a house without looking into its history and possible problems, or I might face ridiculous stress, expense, and emotional trauma from subsequent issues that come up later. As a consumer, one should do their homework not only on the breed but on the breeder.
A breeder who produces puppies carelessly is basically a horrible human being in my book. It was a huge, thoroughly thought out moral decision for me not to adopt but to buy a purebred puppy, as I've worked with rescues before. I took this step with the possible goal of being a custodian. If a breeder is irresponsible in all the aforementioned ways, not only are they producing dogs with a higher possibility of suffering, muddying this ancient breed, and swindling people, they are needlessly taking potential homes away from dogs that need one AND frequently causing dogs to be abandoned! If there weren't any PMs or BYBs, imagine how many people would get schooled by rescue folk and responsible breeders into taking dog-parenting seriously before they ever took one home!
Sorry for the rant; I COMPLETELY understand the internal screaming that happens within some of you when you find out a pup is from a mill or crap breeder. If people like you and I keep yelling about it, we will change a few minds, which make all the difference to a few dogs which is better than no dogs ๐
Hello from Tabasco, Mexico
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Welcome to the forum! Maca is very pretty
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Welcomeโฆ. what a cute little girl you have there.
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Thanks for the welcoming..
My english is bad, but i can read very well.
Thanks!
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silly puppy, you're suposed to curl up in the bed.
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Well.. actually my mums bed its that couch.. muahahahhaa :p;)
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Hello & welcome from Canada. Nice looking little girl you have there.
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Welcome and thanks for the pictures. Are there any other Basenjis in your area? I think you're our first member from Mexico so I was just wondering.
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Well.. at least there are a male but the vet says there are a few more.
This is the page of the breeder.. a russian woman and her husband.
http://mx.geocities.com/vorobievakennel/
Maca is "hungana vorobieva" from Ekelekua Njambo and dam Strong Stael Anita Happy Baby.
Her father:
Ooops to big the photo..
Anita:
I asked about the Fanconi test but they dont have such test. Who knows..?
Maca arrive by plane from Cancun.
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Yes there is a Fanconi test for all Basenjisโฆ And this is something you should have yours tested for if the parents are not DNA tested. Here is the link to read/learn about Fanconi and testing. www.basenjihealth.org
And from what I see on the web link that you posted, they have links to Basenji Club of America, so they should know about Fanconi and testing and why it is so important before breeding.
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Please get this fanconis testing done.
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They tell me that there is no more fanconi because that thing ends with the new expedition for getting more dogs in the 80s.
Now reading im know thats is not acuraccy..
Well reading and thinking about this issue i undestand that I can pay for a kit for fanconi and sending back a dna sample internationally.. ?
I will do the fanconi.. as soon as possible.
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Yea, good for you!!!
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I dont undestand.. looking and make some searches on OFA's Site, looks like the breeders ara more worried about get champions, instead make the fanconi test, the "normal" its not having the test..
In the website of the one of the most important breeders on Spain they talking about the new championship of one of their dogs, raised on USA, and that dog dosnt have the fanconi test.
I think that the rings dogs have to obtain that healthy certificates for get some champions.. before they have the chance to breed.
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I know there are other breeders on this site, who will share info with you.
Maca, every dog who is bred SHOULD have the fanconis test.
Or they shouldn't be bred.
Be they show or pet stock.
This test truely needs to be done on all dogs who are intact. -
They tell me that there is no more fanconi because that thing ends with the new expedition for getting more dogs in the 80s.
Now reading im know thats is not acuraccy..
Well reading and thinking about this issue i undestand that I can pay for a kit for fanconi and sending back a dna sample internationally.. ?
I will do the fanconi.. as soon as possible.
A very wise thing to do. And I hope that you will tell the breeders that they are wrong in telling people that there is no more Fanconi. Nothing can be further from the truth
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yep.. i understand that, i dont understand why the breeders dont..
thanks for the info. searching the parents of maca, i see there are some dogs clear and other carriers.:eek:
The breeders say to me that theirs dogs are healthy but i will do the test on Maca.:o
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Welcome to our group. I think you are wise to have the test done. And yes she is very cute.