It is my understanding that Dr Gonto can only respond about the protocol to a Vet and can not give advise direct to an owner, so you may want to have your Vet sent that information to him. Or send the lab information and copy your Vet so that he can communicate directly with your Vet if he suggests changes.
My dog had a Spinal injury!!!!
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I feel so bad for your boy (and you and your wife). He is obviously in so much physical and mental pain. It IS hard to have to deal with a dog that uses his mouth so freely. You are very strong, and committed to have kept trying with him for so long.
Did they check for other possilibities for his pain? Non-spine related, like something with his organs, or a blockage or something?
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I have also used a chiropractor when my boy started to drop his tail instead of keeping it curled as usual. He was given a full body massage as she checked him over for places where he needed adjustment. You could definately tell every time she did an adjustment though because his body language changed since it was a little uncomfortable especially compared to the very relaxing massage. After it was through he was very happy, playful and has been keeping his tail up. Like Pat's experience, I was also shown how I could help with his tail if he started dropping it again.
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OHHH,,,,,,,Im sending good thoughts your way. Hang in there and keep us updated.
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And here is another thought if you try a chiropractor… if you can get a muzzle on him at home.... then take him.. that might work....
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I'm so sorry to hear that your B hurt his back. You might want to take him to a specialist who does back surgery to make sure he's been diagnosed correctly. I found out from when Max had back trouble that there are types of injuries that should not be treated by a chiropractor. Also–maybe acupuncture could help? My vet has both a chiropractor and acupuncturist that come in regularly to treat some of his patients.
As far as keeping him still--for about the last 4 years of Max's life, my bed was on the floor, and any furniture he could jump on was blocked. He refused to use those stairs, so that was the only way I could keep him from jumping.
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I'm so sorry for your little furbaby he must be in some tremendous pain. We're keeping all of you in our thoughts & prayers.
If you want a cool trick to putting the muzzle on…using a basket muzzle...put in one end some home cooked chicken sprinkled with parmesan & he'll voluntarily stick his nose in the muzzle.
Keep doing this without actually tying it around his head. Once's he's comfortable a few times eating out of it then you can tie it & VOILA!!
Good luck to you!
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Thanks for all the kindness.
He seems to be continually doing better without have a pain attack the last two days. The big test will be once we ween him off his anti inflammatory & pain meds.
I have been thinking about a basket muzzle, The cheese idea and graduating him to it is not a bad idea. Maybe putting it on him before he goes to the vet might not be a bad idea either.
The regular one, he will not hesitate to attack if you get anywhere close top his face with it, no matter who's doing it.
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Dog is feeling much better and is full of Mr Naughtyness. I forgot what a pain he is!
The tri devil gene again- Stealing stuff from my pockets, Pulling things off the table, pawing the dvd player, trying to steal glasses & so on. That's just one day!
He has a lot to make up for- It was nice in one way to have a drugged up Basenji.
Some how I'm glad to have the little evil back!
Thank God he his crate trained!
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Just an FYI for you-my Shadow sees the chiropractor regularily - he has a pinched nerve that will never go away. At fist he was so bad he would just lie there until he had to go outside to potty. I was going to put him down he was that bad and grumpy and in pain. I took him to the chiroproactor-every two weeks at first then down to three and four-I now take him about every two months. What an improvement! People who saw him before and see him now can't believe the improvement. He runs, plays and this year for the first time I took him out to see if he would race-he did and loved it! Since you don't have any broken bones-I would see if the chiropractor can help you-I've been in your shoes literally.
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Have you considered using Bach Remedy to calm your Tri-B?
Here is a link on the product.http://www.healthyhappydogs.com/BachFlowerArticle
I am a massage therapist, and I use it with/on my clients, 4 legged or 2. I would definitly consider using a massge therapist ,not just for the back pain, but for the temperment issue while in pain or not. Chiropracters are great to use as well as accupuncture. I go to the clients home when the animal is too nervous at the office. The needles do not hurt the animal, so I think your B would be o.k.. Let me know how its going.
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Have you considered using Bach Remedy to calm your Tri-B?
Here is a link on the product.I'm curious.. is this the same type stuff as other natural rescue remedies that are 10 - 13% alcohol?
I used a bit w/Keoki, and it worked great, but the alcohol content made me very uneasy, so I stopped.
When I spoke to my vet about it, she asked me where I'd purchased it and immediately contacted the store – it's no longer on their shelves.The concern is that dogs don't metabolize alcohol in the same way we do, and it can lead to greater problems {sooner than w/humans} if used too often. And the 10 - 13% alcohol base is really quite huge.
You may wind up w/dogs facing liver, pancreas, etc problems down the road, and everyone will be wondering why that happened!If you do choose to go with such products, do read the full label -- which of course will emphasize the flower extracts --and look for alcohol content. Then use with caution.
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O- No I think it is. I'm sorry. I just called the 1-800 number on my contact info, and she informed me it's actually 27% from Brandy. She said "that's such a small amount in just a drop or 2". I disagree…. That scares me. I wished I would have known. No wonder you get mellow, your drinking! Sorry about that.
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Just another thought…...I wish the company would publish that info. I'm not using that on my animal clients again. I'll just trust my ability to calm through healing touch.
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Just another thought…...I wish the company would publish that info. I'm not using that on my animal clients again. I'll just trust my ability to calm through healing touch.
yeah, it seems to me, on the one that I used, the alcohol wasn't even listed in the ingredients, which is why I didn't notice until I had it home.
I noticed that later, elsewhere on the bottle.I think Andrea, here on the forum, was the one who made a comment that had me go looking more closely at the bottle!
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I should add - when my vet contacted the store at which I bought mine, they said, "Oh yes! We sell a LOT of that here".
ugh.
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ugh-I hear ya…scary
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Just another thought…...I wish the company would publish that info. I'm not using that on my animal clients again. I'll just trust my ability to calm through healing touch.
Isn't the fact about the alcohol on the labeL? I think it is…? many of the BACH products have alcohol in them...
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Isn't the fact about the alcohol on the labeL? I think it is…? many of the BACH products have alcohol in them...
Isn't the fact about the alcohol on the labeL? I think it is…? many of the BACH products have alcohol in them...
it may be on the label - I used a different product so cannot say – but it's sure not listed on the website in the list of ingredients. The website is all about the herbs. It's misleading at best for people who order from them.
And 27%!!! That's absurd! My gosh -- it's almost 1/3 alcohol!! Who wouldn't feel relaxed?
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it may be on the label - I used a different product so cannot say – but it's sure not listed on the website in the list of ingredients. The website is all about the herbs. It's misleading at best for people who order from them.
And 27%!!! That's absurd! My gosh -- it's almost 1/3 alcohol!! Who wouldn't feel relaxed?
Interesting and you are right, it is not on the BACH website for the ingredients, however if you go like to drugstore.com the ingredients are there… and yup... 27%
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My 12 year old boy injured his back, pinched nerve, a couple of years ago, jumping off a chair, and was hobbling around. We used steriods, muscle relaxers and pain meds, they recommended crate rest and we got a crate in the middle of the living room and tried it for one day, ha, but he was so drugged all he did was sleep beside the couch on a floor pillow for 3 or 4 days, my other 2 were very worried about him and stayed close to him. After a week he was much better, we weaned off the meds and he was 95% better. He has had a couple of similar episodes, not as severe, over the last 2 years. they said he has terrible spondylosis of the spine, may have more problems in the future.
We were very fortunate that his pain was not as severe as yours, and our other dogs 'doctored"him. Take it one day at a time, be sure you give all the pain meds he needs for awhile, and take care of your wounds. There aren't many of us who have not been bitten by a hurt or frightened dog over the years! I hope your wife's finger is OK.
Anne in Tampa
