• @Kipawa:

    Anne, we just got back from the vet. He concurs that it's environmental (the grasses he has been running through), but said that we still cannot rule out food allergy, so Kipawa will be on rice and boiled chicken until all of this has really cleared up. He did need a cortisone shot and we now also have some Pheniram, which is pretty much chlorpheniramine maleate (for people). Good to know if I ever need more. I can just head over to the drug store. Kipawa has just started to rest. I think the cortisone is already helping out. Once this is cleared up I'm going to start using fish oil to keep his skin in good shape. My husband needs to have the heat turned up quite high in the winter, and I believe it is making Kipawa's skin dry.

    It's so hard to see them suffer (our dogs, not our husbands). 🙂 🙂 🙂

    I am so happy to say that Kipawa is basically close to 100% today. 🙂 Since he had the shot yesterday he has not scratched himself once, I think due to the prednisone shot and the fact that he was exhausted. 😞 I don't like running to vets and getting cortisone, but boy did my little man need it. The hives were progressing to his face, and the ones already existing on his back and sides were really getting big (between the size of a dime/quarter - around an inch in diameter). For the next 3 days he is on an allergy pill, similar to what you can buy for humans at the drugstore (Pheniram). Right now he is right by my side sleeping - his regular spot when I am using my laptop.

    I'm off to the dike today or tomorrow without Kipawa to pick up some of what I think are the culprit grasses. I'll bring them in to my regular vet, who is awesome. The vet we used yesterday was 'okay' but kept on asking me if Kipawa ate well. He asked 3 times! Kipawa is almost 26 lbs at 14 months. That's a darn good sized basenji. I got the feeling he was not familiar with the breed and what it should look like (being able to barely see the ribs and being able to feel them when your hands pass down the sides of their bodies).

    I will be getting some 'fish oil' today. Is that Omega 3-6-9? Or just Omega 3? Or Salmon Oil? Or ….? The air is a very warm and dry in our home.

    Thanks for all of your wonderful suggestions and comments. This forum is a godsend for everyone who owns a basenji!


  • Oh no Fran, meant in general, not Kipawa. When stuff is getting worse, why let the dog suffer? I'd have been at the vet too!

    I was actually thinking me and allergies, lol. They tell you decongestants and cold meds really don't help– just use saline to flush and wait it out. But I don't care.

    On the horse poo, who knows? But considering the over body rash, I'd still bet on topical reaction to something. Food allergies often present with ears and feet itching and not so much body rashes.

    As for right wrong.. wow, wish I knew. We guess, we do what seems to work. I am, as I am sure noted, big into checking research. Due to my own health and the potential dangers of many herbs and things, I have gotten worse not better over the years at wanting people to research before using things. Herbs can still kill you just the same as that Rx. But call me cynical-- if something works, you can prove it scientifically. And if you can make a profit, you would prove it if you could. So while I have tried things that had zero proof other than people who believed in it, I make darn sure it isn't dangerous first. If it won't hurt you, it won't hurt to try it out even if no research supports it. But if it can have bad side effects, I don't get the risk.


  • @Kipawa:

    My husband goes into anaphlaxic shock from bee/wasp stings. Years ago it only affected the area where he was stung. After he was stung a couple of more times, it became life threatening. He now has to carry an Epipen. Would be curious to know if anyone uses those on dogs.

    When Brando went into anaphylaxis this summer (from what I assume was a bee sting), I spoke with my vet about using an Epipen on dogs. She said she has prescribed them for dogs - but for large dogs (labs, shepherds, that size dog). She said she would much rather give me injectable benadryl because epinephrine is a scary drug to potentially overdose (since it is based on a dog's weight and a basenji is so small). With benadryl, the only thing that will happen is the dog will sleep. She said she could prescribe a child's dose epi pen, but that I would have to be very careful that I was accurate with the weight of the dog. I opted for the injectable benadryl. So now if anyone takes Brando out of the house, they must at least carry pill form benadryl.

    As a side note…after the vet finished explaining about the epipen vs benadryl, she then went on to explain how to do a home tracheotomy to get air in once the the throat has closed and the dog is unable to swallow or get air because of anaphylaxis, but that is a whole other story...:eek: Hope to God I never have to do that!


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    I was actually thinking me and allergies, lol. They tell you decongestants and cold meds really don't help– just use saline to flush and wait it out. But I don't care.

    On the horse poo, who knows? But considering the over body rash, I'd still bet on topical reaction to something. Food allergies often present with ears and feet itching and not so much body rashes.

    I am, as I am sure noted, big into checking research. Due to my own health and the potential dangers of many herbs and things, I have gotten worse not better over the years at wanting people to research before using things. Herbs can still kill you just the same as that Rx.

    SO agree with the comments regarding herbs and all of the homeopathic stuff. Lots of people take St. John's Wort for depression. They then take other meds and don't realize the SJW is going to react with the other meds. Serious things have happened with seratonin overdoses due to SJW. You have to be careful with it, like any other Dr. prescribed med.

    As for those saline nose cleansers/washes - forget it. I've seen those little teapot nose/sinus washers used, and there is no way I am going to do this. I actually hate anything going up my nose. I was very popular in the 80s… had many friends taking me to cocaine parties as I wouldn't compete for the powder.... just kidding! 🙂

    I had to have a small scope put down my nose last week. I have gone through major surgeries better than I did that!


  • Wizard, yes, that's sort of how Homeopathy works - treating like with like. I know a lot of people poo poo it and talk about placebo effect but animals know none of this. I successfully treat many things with homeopathy together with conventional medicines where applicable.


  • Re Herbals -they can be dangerous if used wrongly. I'm not a fan myself although quite a few conventional medicines are herbal too (digitalis?). Homeopathic is quite different and not at all harmful and can be taken to alleviate side effects of conventional medicine. Animals don't require scientific proof. I use homeopathic products on my sheep as well as my dogs and very occasionally take something myself. If something works I feel no need to question the why especially where my beloved animals are involved.

    To each his own any way. As I said whatever works must be good.

    I'm so pleased that Kipawa is now recovered.


  • Fran, without saline rinses, my daughter had CONSTANT sinus infections. They really do help and you get used to it.

    How are the rash areas today Fran?


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    How are the rash areas today Fran?

    Debra, thanks so much for asking. Kipawa is a bit more tired over the last two days, but he's back to 100% regarding the hives and welts. Of course something could still be going on inside his body, so I am updating our vet daily. We had sunny but cold weather today here. I contemplated taking him for a walk along the dike, without him wearing his coat, but I think his skin/immune system needs a good week or so of a break. Instead, we had a super long 2 hour leashed walk tonight - just got back in at 8:30 p.m. No contact with any bushes that could bring up those irritations again. We'll both sleep very well tonight.


  • I am so glad!


  • My Arnie is taking Freeze Dried Stinging Nettles in a pill form for his allergies/coughing.

    Jennifer


  • Does anyone have pictures of hives on their B's??
    Zumi and i go running daily but we moved to a new area. there were lots of new plants along the side of the trail where we run, and today i noticed a small bump on his side.. it doesn't seem to bother him at all, and it's pretty small. i was wondering it if was a hive?
    if it is hives, wouldn't there be more than just one bump? it's on his rib/belly area. i would like to rule out something small before i take him to a vet and do a biopsy if it becomes necessary.


  • possibly a mosquito bite? or some type of bug bite?


  • In my experience, Hives are BIG. Hard to miss!

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