I really hope you find a wonderful home for your puppy. Best of luck.
Debra: Do not make remarks on people's character when you don't understand the situation fully. It reflects poorly on you, not the person you insult.
The issue was that after I made this thread and someone inquired about the puppy's parents and their health I had to discover he was a carrier on OFA and not from the breeder. Perhaps she didn't have enough time to inform me, but I didn't know that and I felt very wounded by this. So yes I made it public. I am all for full disclosure; especially when it concerns health and especially when it concerns the dogs in my breeding program.
I have already mentioned that mistakes have been made and further witch hunting is not 'socially savvy' and I ask it to stop.
Again, you are the one attacking the other breeder, continuing to make comments like the above, and the you ask others to stop? You stop, others will. You claim she didn't contact you, she said you didn't respond to her requests. One is not being honest, no one can prove who, but really… class shows.
Have you sold your pup yet? Fanconi free?
Thanks,
Janet
Annandael: Might you post pictures here on the forum rather than links to Facebook? Some of us do not belong to Facebook, and cannot view the pics. Thanks.
Is this black and white pup still available?
Thanks,
Janet
This is an old post but I am confused about something. According to these posts the mother was clear and the father turned out to be a carrier thought to be clear originally. So how did he sire an affected puppy. I thought if a clear and a carrier were bred you would not get affected. only if two carriers were bred you would get affected. Or of course if an affected was bred you could get affected. I am just curious. I am not breeding
or anything just trying to understand this Fanconi. My own girl is a carrier but spayed, and my understanding is she should never come down with Fanconi. Im just not sure how a clear and carrier could have an affected thats all.
This is an old post but I am confused about something. According to these posts the mother was clear and the father turned out to be a carrier thought to be clear originally. So how did he sire an affected puppy. I thought if a clear and a carrier were bred you would not get affected. only if two carriers were bred you would get affected. Or of course if an affected was bred you could get affected. I am just curious. I am not breeding
or anything just trying to understand this Fanconi. My own girl is a carrier but spayed, and my understanding is she should never come down with Fanconi. Im just not sure how a clear and carrier could have an affected thats all.
Not the same litters, the one mentioned with the affected was from a different litter than Annandael's litter. The litter with the one affected turned out to be a carrier x carrier breeding. Keep in mind that the linkage test for Fanconi was just that "linkage", not a direct DNA test. So retested when we got the direct DNA test was/is needed. The bitch was a carrier, the male "retested with the direct test" turned out to be a carrier
This is an old post but I am confused about something. According to these posts the mother was clear and the father turned out to be a carrier thought to be clear originally. So how did he sire an affected puppy. I thought if a clear and a carrier were bred you would not get affected. only if two carriers were bred you would get affected. Or of course if an affected was bred you could get affected. I am just curious. I am not breeding
or anything just trying to understand this Fanconi. My own girl is a carrier but spayed, and my understanding is she should never come down with Fanconi. Im just not sure how a clear and carrier could have an affected thats all.
Her post is confusing, The bitch was not CLEAR, she was out of a clear/carrier breeding, so she had to have been a carrier. But also, this was the linkage test. Hopefully all involved have gotten the DNA test that came available the end of last year.
The bitch was not CLEAR, she was out of a clear/carrier breeding, so she had to have been a carrier.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but clear to carrier should yield 50/50 clears and carriers (statistically speaking). Carrier to carrier would give one clear, two carrier, one affected, if I am doing the math right. And clear to affected would yield all carrier. (obviously affected to affected = all puppies affected, carrier to affected would give you half carrier and half affected)
Maybe I read the implication wrong. Now that I am looking at it again, I don't think Debra meant she had to be a carrier, just that obviously she was if she had an affected puppy. Really good that the direct test is now available!
You are right, I thought one of the puppies from her litter was affected. Too tired to go back and read.. so let me say, first yep, you are right on transmission of recessive genes.
Second, IF her bitch had an affected puppy when bred to a carrier, she also is a carrier (that is IF her sire and dam actually include one clear parent).
Just wondering if you found a home for this pup?
