Questions before I get my Basenji pup!

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  • tanzaT

    @lisastewart:

    You should definitnely test him. I tested both of my boys, as Trog was born before the test was created. Both of his parents tested as Carriers, but thank goodness he tested as a carrier too and not an affected. I will be testing my new pup as soon as I get her. Her mother is a clear and sire a carrier, so the worst she would be is a carrier, but I want to know her status. I have a friend whose dog tested as a carrier and has now developed fanconi, so even the blood test was not exact.

    I am guessing that fact was reported? Any chance that the sire/dam was not the sire/dam of that dog? I know that is the first thing they check… and then they will usually rerun the test to see if they get the same results... along with that if the sire and dam are still available re-test them.

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • lisastewartL

    She has rePorted it and is waiting for the lab person to return from NY to get more data the blood test was only done on her dog as the dog was from a BYB. We are hearing that there have bee a handful that tested as carrier and did develop falconi.

    Joe & Lisa Stewart

    Rolla, MO

    http://khursdogbed.com

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  • tanzaT

    @lisastewart:

    She has rePorted it and is waiting for the lab person to return from NY to get more data the blood test was only done on her dog as the dog was from a BYB. We are hearing that there have bee a handful that tested as carrier and did develop falconi.

    I think that they ones that I have heard of… came from questionable breedings or breeders...

    But since we do not have the direct test yet... the recommendation is that you strip test Carriers monthly till we do....

    And yes, as with any test... there are errors

    I think that you should (or the owner) should go to Jon directly....

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • lisastewartL

    She is a friend of Jons as we are all in the same basenji club

    Joe & Lisa Stewart

    Rolla, MO

    http://khursdogbed.com

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  • KipawaK

    @lakers13:

    Kipawa I have decided to go ahead and get this puppy. I'm on my way to Houston now. If he does ever get ill then I believe I can give him better care than anyone, so I'm up for it! However I will pray he lives long and stays healthy.

    Please let us know when you are back and for sure we want to see pictures of your new little man.

    Fran Harder, BAB

    With Barney in my heart

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  • BasenjimammaB
    Houston

    Taylor..I just want to wish you and your new little guy best of luck..and you know we all want to see pictures of him…

    Petra and Pippin

    with Otis in my heart…

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  • S

    We do wish you best health with your new b..

    Sharron Hurlbut

    BRAT, basenji rescue

    Evergreen basenji club

    Seattle Purebred Dog Rescue

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  • khanisK

    @tanza:

    I think that they ones that I have heard of… came from questionable breedings or breeders...

    But since we do not have the direct test yet... the recommendation is that you strip test Carriers monthly till we do....

    And yes, as with any test... there are errors

    I think that you should (or the owner) should go to Jon directly....

    I hope that isn't saying I am one of those Pat!

    The three dogs that tested as CArriers re-tested as Carriers.
    It was NOT the test.
    It was the fact that the dog's DNA is just basically funky and is showing as a carrier when in fact the dog is affected. I believe all 3 of these dogs were from Carrier x Carrier breedings.

    Keeping this information in mind, any dog that tests as a Carrier from a Carrier x Carrier or Carrier x Affected breeding should be regularly strip-tested.

    Perhaps when the direct test comes out those dogs DNA will not prevent the test from giving the correct results… but that is neither here nor there since we aren't at that point yet.

    And for the OP... I'd be happy to share stories that I have written based on my just a pet puppy owner's and their first-hand experiences with their fanconi pet puppy
    Whether you show or dog or not have absolutely NO BEARING on whether or not the dog should be healthy.

    Best of luck to you.. and as many have said... do the test. $65 is a drop in the bucket compared to future vet bills.

    Kathy Britton

    Khani's Basenjis

    Portland, Oregon

    ….."You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me!"

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  • tanzaT

    Kathy, in no way was I referring to you? I don't even know the dog that is being mentioned that tested Carrier and now has Fanconi…

    And, yes can be "funky" DNA.... all I was saying is that I would explore all the possibles...

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • dmeyD

    @khanis:

    I hope that isn't saying I am one of those Pat!

    The three dogs that tested as CArriers re-tested as Carriers.
    It was NOT the test.
    It was the fact that the dog's DNA is just basically funky and is showing as a carrier when in fact the dog is affected. I believe all 3 of these dogs were from Carrier x Carrier breedings.

    Keeping this information in mind, any dog that tests as a Carrier from a Carrier x Carrier or Carrier x Affected breeding should be regularly strip-tested.

    Perhaps when the direct test comes out those dogs DNA will not prevent the test from giving the correct results… but that is neither here nor there since we aren't at that point yet.

    And for the OP... I'd be happy to share stories that I have written based on my just a pet puppy owner's and their first-hand experiences with their fanconi pet puppy
    Whether you show or dog or not have absolutely NO BEARING on whether or not the dog should be healthy.

    Best of luck to you.. and as many have said... do the test. $65 is a drop in the bucket compared to future vet bills.

    I thought you should never breed carrier to carrier, or even worse affected, i thought you should only breed carrier to clear..? Did I misunderstand?

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  • lisastewartL

    The test has only been in existence for 4 yrs, before that, none of us knew whether our dogs were carriers or not.

    Joe & Lisa Stewart

    Rolla, MO

    http://khursdogbed.com

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  • tanzaT

    And if you breed first, don't test or test later… well, you get the picture. Just because someone says you should not do "something"... doesn't mean that some people don't do it....

    And as noted the test has only been available since July of 2007, so not even quite 4yrs.

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • Shaye's MomS

    Lakers13: Good luck to you and your new puppy - do post pictures as soon as you are able, we love puppy pictures. I understand where your heart is very well, as I am someone whose little B, Shaye, was gotten from questionable sources before we knew better. Shortly after bringing my little girl home, I joined this forum, and have gotten lots and lots of wonderful advice and answers to questions I have had. In the two-plus years I have now had Shaye, I feel lucky to have found the forum. The first thing they taught me was about Fanconi disease. I ordered the test and had her tested immediately - thank God, she is clear. The $65 spent will give you great peace of mind, which, when raising a basenji, is a precious thing indeed. My girl is healthy, strong and a typical basenji, and we have felt welcome here, regardless of her background. Love your puppy, ask us bunches of questions, and be sure to pay lots of attention to what is said on the forum. But be aware that your vet, who should be willing to do the research to become an expert on basenjis, will be your best indicator of how your dog is doing.

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  • P

    A very good post, Shaye's Mom. I hope you're still with us Lakers13.

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  • L

    Hello everyone, I got back from Texas yesterday but haven't had a chance to get on the computer since I've been playing with Benji 24/7! He is the best puppy I have ever owned! He is so good and funny. He hasn't used the bathroom in the house yet! Everytime I take him outisde he goes on command. He loves to play and sleep ALOT. I put him in his pen for the first time last night and put him to sleep before I snuck out and then I woke up around 1 am to him crying terribly. I felt so sorry for him but didn't respond and he stopped shortly and slept til around 6 am. He didnt use the bathhroom all night, but did first thing when I took him out. He's been perfect, he even found a water leak in our garage that he heard running through the walls! I will post pics soon. I'm not very tech savvy, ha.

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  • lisastewartL

    Congrats, looking forward to seeing photos. I'm driving to KY Friday to pick up our girl, so excited to be getting another one. I don't have your willpower, she will be in our bed with the other 4 dogs from the first day. We are staying in a hotel near her breeder Friday night so she can get used to our two basenji boys before taking her home to be overwhelmed by the whippet girls. The 7 hr drive will be stressfull enough. Where are you in Arkansas? We will be in Rogers, AR on the 19th and 20th of March coursing our 4 dogs.

    Joe & Lisa Stewart

    Rolla, MO

    http://khursdogbed.com

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  • P

    Good to hear from you Lakers13 - Benji sounds a very good boy - don't be too complacent though - he might be working out his strategies!!

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  • BasenjimammaB
    Houston

    Taylor..so happy to hear that everything is going great..can't wait to see pictures of that little rascal..I am also very glad you stuck around..:):D

    Petra and Pippin

    with Otis in my heart…

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  • S

    Photos???!!!!

    Sharron Hurlbut

    BRAT, basenji rescue

    Evergreen basenji club

    Seattle Purebred Dog Rescue

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  • L

    I live in Conway. And I will try and get on the photos asap

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