Sadie, how are your dogs going today? would love to see an updated photo of them. xx
I'd like to see updated pics too.
First, thank you everybody for every prayer, thought, well wish, good vibe, hug & piece of advice.
Lvoss, I followed your link & read up on this disease. About half of the symptoms seemed to be a good match, the other half not. I brought it up with the doctor today, and she said this tick disease causes nose bleeds because the dog's blood can not clot. Booger isn't having nose bleeds, its drops of blood in his sneezes due to dried out nasal passages from sneezing so much.
I mentioned the thyroid issue, and she doesn't think its thyroid related.
She is most concerned now with just how miserable he is. The sneezing is one thing, the 24 hour sleeping & being too lethargic to greet us when we come home is very worrying to her. Although she originally did not want to do a blood panel because she didn't think it would reveal anything, she now wants to do a full blood panel to see if it reveals something.
We are scheduled to go in tomorrow evening at 7 to get blood drawn, and hopefully will know something sometime this weekend.
As far as getting a second opinion… the first vet recommended benadryl. I spoke with another vet over the phone & listed his symptoms. This vet pretty much concurred with Dr. DeHaven... probably not thyroid or tick disease. She also recommended going to an internal medicine specialist.
I will continue to update.
Blood panels is the first thing I insist on…. regardless of what a Vet would tell me... because while it might not show exactly what is going on, it can rule out lots of things.... and I make sure we have a base line beginning at a very early age... but that is me...
I hope and send prayers for the best for Booger... and that you get to the some answers.... just a point here that the blood work could be hard to figure out or what it shows. Since he has been going down hill, some of his organ values could already be compromised in his condition.... That is one thing about have consistent blood work done, you have a base line to compare what was before to what might be going on now...
Get well soon little Booger. HUGS
Prayers and good thoughts to Booger, and to you too, I'm sure you are worried sick.
I so hope you find something soon.
Hugs to Booger, get well soon.
Andrew, are you saying that a blood panel HASN'T been drawn on Booger at all? ! Please do ask the vet to run a PCV which will show his red blood cell level (hemotacrit). With his lethargy I definitely think anemia needs to be ruled out. How do his his gums look? Inside of the ears? Toenails? Bright pink?
I totally agree with Pat, I'm big on blood panels also, and especially a baseline which is usually done when they are spayed/neutered.
deb
Oh, my, blood work is always my first request for any sick dog.
Maybe I missed why this wasn't done, but hopefully, it will be done asap.
Hugs to you and your sick boy.
Do let us know what you find out.
The blood panels haven't been done yet because the vet initially thought it was something irritating the nasal passages, such as a blade of grass or a bad root in his teeth or a tumor. She didn't think the blood would reveal anything. While speaking with her last night, she asked me to bring him in to do blood. We took him in this evening & should get results on the blood panel and urinalysis back tomorrow.
Today he did not get out of bed until 6 pm when the door bell rang, not even to go out or eat. I had to feed him in my bed. After work I picked up some wet food, so he was a lot more interested in his evening meal.
I will continue to update y'all, and please keep the suggestions coming. I have run every single one of them by the vet, and I have also researched them all online to see if I think they fit.
The advice, suggestions and well wishes are invaluable. I don't think I could make it through this without this forum and the friends I have made here.
This may be way off base, but if he is not eating also, could there be a problem with his teeth? Dental problems can cause an odd amount of symptoms. Just a suggestion.
The bloodwork/urine must say something. We are thinking of you.
I saw that you mentioned the doc recommended Benadryl for the nasal irritation….are you still using that? Benadryl can be a sedative. I am reasonably sure that your vet would have realized this, and discontinued the Benadryl already..but I thought I would throw it out there.
I am so hopeful the blood work will point you in the right direction.
Hugs, hugs, hugs.
I am sending lots of positive thoughts your way and am hoping for a answer soon for you and Booger.
I'm hoping the bloodwork will point something out! You are in our thoughts!
If you don't mind cooking for him try:
http://www.maryshouse.us/Recipes.htm
the muttloaf. i cut the recipe in 1/2
I'm praying, keeping good thoughts and sending good vibes your way, Booger! Please keep us updated…
This may be way off base, but if he is not eating also, could there be a problem with his teeth? Dental problems can cause an odd amount of symptoms. Just a suggestion.
Actually not so offbase… While the vet had him sedated for x-ray she probed all of his teeth to make sure he didn't have a bad root that was irritating the nasal passages.
are you still using that? Benadryl can be a sedative.
The first vet we went to recommended Benadryl, but we took him off after 2 days because it was making him congested and he had difficulty breathing.
If you don't mind cooking for him try:
http://www.maryshouse.us/Recipes.htm
the muttloaf. i cut the recipe in 1/2
I don't mind at all, especially if it gets him to eat. I will definitely be trying this! Thank you.
We should hear back on the results tomorrow. I'm just praying that we find something, anything, even if its not curable. I'd rather know its time to let him go so he doesn't suffer anymore than continue test after test while he continues to suffer.
Tonight he did a face plant into the floor trying to eat. Just tipped right over. Last night he had a bad nose bleed in bed. Its heartbreaking.
sure sounds like some sort of anemia. Boy I sure hope you get a answer soon.
I found some material about dog illnesses that you may or may not have considered discussing with the Vet.:
BACTERIAL: -Leptospirosis
FUNGAL: -Histoplasmosis -Coccidioidomycosis(Valley Fever) -Blastomycosis
RICKETTSIAL: -Canine Ehrlichiosis and Anaplasmosis
I copied it to Word, but I can't attach it on the forums, the document is too large. I can email it to you if you want…
(Lots of love and doggie prayers are continued to be sent your way)