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  • I alwasy look at 4 weeks and then 8 weeks. There was one litter where - when anyone saw the pups - it was always one pup that was 10 out of six. It was always - "…..and here's Mo." At about 7.5 weeks I looked outside in the yard and went - wow who was that - I bundled the pups up and went to my mentor and told her I wanted her to see something - let out the pups - and she said 'wow - who is that". So instead of being in a pet home in Duluth - I sent up his brother who had more flash and dash and kept the one that was no ones pick until 8 weeks.

    He finished and turned out to be quiet a handsome boy with solid movement and strucuture.


  • Had a scare last night with Sugar. When I got home from work, she didn't look good. She's really skinny anyway and I keep upping her food. I noticed she had really runny poop and looked like she was straining. Her eyes were dull, but her temp was only 100.1. It's been running around 99.7 anyway. After I watched her awhile I phoned Sue. (I'm sure she was really happy to have me call her at midnight) She told me to give her some milk and an egg. She said she had never had a bitch with low calcium, but she had heard some that had. I gave her the milk and within 10 min she was laying with the puppies and looking a little more comfy. She still is runny this am, but it's not as runny. Hopefully this will clear up. Just thought I'd let you know.

    Anyone know what else I can give her to keep her calcium up and how much? I know yogurt is good, but at this point-how much?

    Also 5 day old pics Kind of crappy, but I'm getting better with the new camera:




  • The pups are adorable!! I hope really hope Sugar is doing better today. Keeping fingers crossed that this was just a little bump in the road and everything goes smoothly from this point on.

    Pat


  • Still not good-bad stomach cramps. I've called someone else in to get an opinion as well since I am the only one really seeing her.


  • I give cottage cheese 4% milk fat for calcium, not yogart? And I always have mine on it starting before they whelp (like 2wks before)…. I don't measure, but if I had to guess it would be 2 tablespoons with each meal.

    You would be best off to take her to the Vet, IMO... as Eclampsia is a serious acute life-threatening problem that shows up typically in early lactation.


  • Actually, I think the people in this house may have fed her something that did not agree with her. (I suspected these people after the fact when someone mentioned something about fruit, apples, sausage, etc.) She's getting better now, her poops have started to slow down and form a little bit. If she does continue, I will take her to the vet. I just worry because of the babies. (dumb people feeding a dog what they aren't used to)

    Thanks Pat,


  • Sometimes you need to give them a calcium shot I would call the vet asap and not try to second guess as Tanza stated eclampsia can be life threatening.


  • I did call the vets this am. They told me to wait it out another day, since she didn't have a fever, unless she developed one or her glands got hard. They told me yogurt and rice. If she's not better in the am, I will take her in.


  • Just curious, but what is a normal temp for a dog…


  • Sugar hovers around 99.7, But it can vary from what I understand


  • New pics- 8 days



  • Awww they are so adorable :) Keep the photos coming!


  • They just get cuter and cuter!!

    Pat


  • She looks like a good mommy…


  • She's very good.


  • Aww, too cute! Can I steal one? :) How is everything going Arlene? Is Sugar feeling better?


  • No, because of the ice storm I couldn't bring her in yesterday to the vet. I have an appt this am for her. She still has runny poop, like liquid, and stomach cramps, but no fever. But she is still soooo skinny. Everything that goes in either comes out in liquid form, or the pups take it. They are gaining by at least one to two ounces per day, so the milk is good-it seems to be just with her. And she passes gas like a human. Loud and proud!

    But those puppies sure do know how to whine! I think the little red female will be called Tinkerbell. So, I have three names now, Starr, Zorro, and Tink. Now, if I can just come up with a name for the boy with the spot on the back that whines all the time. I can start with calling them something other than Puppy #1, 2, 3, and 4.


  • Hope Sugar will start to feel a bit better all she?ll be just skin &bones those little monsters they?ll take what they need as all babies do luckily the milk is of good quality.
    Call the little boy Whiner or Whinger ;)Love that little Tri girl can?t wait till I get my own Tri litter next fall if all goes as planned:)


  • The vet said that nothing is really wrong and just to watch her. Just keep giving her a bit of yogurt everyday because of the probiotics and some rice and scrambled eggs with her kibble. He didn't want to give her anything because of the puppies. I'll up her food to about 3 1/2 to 4 cups as well.

    Whiner-that's what I've been calling him, but I think he really needs a decent name, otherwise he will whine all the time!


  • A large spoon of canned pumpkin may firm up her stools. Yogurt is usually a good thing in moderation.

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