@debradownsouth your post rings true and though I hate that this has to be the solution- unfortunately if I lock her in any sort of room she instantly scratches frantically at the carpet, ripping it from the tacks in 5-10 minutes. I’d love to give her free roam of my place- as I did my last place- but she’s not comfortable enough yet and will destroy the carpet and maybe the couch as well.
She is odd in the way she acts. She has plenty ability to get away from the kids and loud noises but does not move away from them. She will just give a short protest growl as they walk by.
Giving her treats in the crate doesn’t work. She’s still to frantic to even think about them while in there. She goes nicely into the crate and doesn’t have to be forced, but has now taken a step backwards since she got out the one time.
We go to the dog park frenquently and she gets long walks everyday as we live in a town that’s easily walk-able. I even have the 6 year old wall her.
The Prozac, thus far, has helped her to not be so frantic during the day when the kids are under toe.
Basenjis are hard (as we all know) and this is not my first by far.
Scared of people / crowds
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@sarahmiri said in Scared of people / crowds:
It's more men that walk by or behind us.....
....he is overwhelmed by the stimuli he pulls very stronglyIt almost seems like he has a hearing problem. He can't hear people approaching from behind, so he is startled by their sudden appearance. Also, when you are in a crowd, he becomes overwhelmed and panics. He is clearly frightened, but perhaps because he can not sort out all of the noises that are, or aren't, coming through.
Consider doing some random clapping behind him, or banging pots when he is in another room, just as an observation to see if and how he reacts. Consult your Vet if his reactions don't seem "normal" to you.
Is there such a thing as a canine ear specialist?
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@elbrant said in Scared of people / crowds: asked are there
canine ear specialist?
Yes, there are Elbrant, typically they are Dog Ear, Nose and Throat Disorders, specialists.... Sarahmiri, check with your local Vet. There is also a Baer testing for hearing in dogs. Typically this is done to check hearing on Dal puppies as that is a genetic issue in the breed. -
Fastest way to know if your Basenji has a hearing problem, in my experience, is to drop some kibble into the dog's bowl when they are elsewhere in the house.
"In order to get along with a Basenji, you have to be at least half as smart as the dog!"
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@eeeefarm And I KNOW my boys do not have a hearing problem - they can hear a cake crumb drop.
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It also catches them out in a lie when they don't "hear" your recall command but are there in an instant at the sound of food falling!
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@eeeefarm said in Scared of people / crowds:
Fastest way to know if your Basenji has a hearing problem, in my experience, is to drop some kibble into the dog's bowl when they are elsewhere in the house.
He does hear when I prepare his food even when doors are closed
he seems to hear everything and his ears are constantly turning when we are outside. I think he is just very sensitive when it comes to people. He also gets startled easily. And it's not a problem of noise because he has no problem with cars driving by. Just a bus or motorcycle scares him sometimes. I tested it with noisy videos from YouTube. He can sleep on the couch while a jigsaw runs in TV. But outside would be a problem I guess. Apparently he is a very sensitive little guy. -
Not unusual to be sensitive to selective things. My first boy was deathly afraid of the central vac. I cured that by feeding him in the opposite end of the house while it was running, then gradually moving it closer as his anxiety eased. Move the hose first, vacuum off, then after some time to get used to that, turn it on in the new position. Over the space of a few weeks we went from it literally scaring the shit out of him to him being able to eat his dinner with the hose coiled around his dish and the vacuum running. These things take time, and I never pushed him past his comfort level. If you take it a step too far, go back to the last known comfort zone (or further, if necessary) and eventually you will get there.
I should add, I adopted him at just under 2 years of age, and he arrived with this phobia.
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@sarahmiri - Usually the "fear" period is not at his age, but earlier...... It can't hurt to make sure that his hearing is normal... always good to scratch off any possibles...
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@sarahmiri said in Scared of people / crowds:
He does hear when I prepare his food even when doors are closed
oh good... well, then. Perhaps helping him by describing what the noises are?
"There's a noisy truck coming down the road", or "It's ok, it's just a motorcycle."
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I talk to him with a calm voice but it doesn't help. I think he needs to built up his selfesteem. Any tips?
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You need to build up his confidence, @sarahmiri - This is not something he can easily do for himself. Don't push him out of his comfort zone at first, but then very gradually and if he gets things right, LOTS of praise and cuddles. Let him know how clever he is at each step and take things slowly. You will need to be patient, but do have his ears checked, sudden loud noises rather than something continuous could be upsetting him.
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@sarahmiri said in Scared of people / crowds:
I talk to him with a calm voice but it doesn't help. I think he needs to built up his selfesteem. Any tips?
Calm is good. Also, radiate interest rather than alarm at anything that is happening around you. Here is a chance to hone your acting skills. Adopt the attitude that whatever is approaching or whatever you are approaching is a special treat, something enticing, not threatening. If you can make yourself "feel" that, your dog will pick up on your emotions and hopefully adopt the same attitude. OTOH, if you are apprehensive about anything, he will pick up on that too, so it's important to try to really feel positive instead of concerned.
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I watched him closely today. It's always humans that scare him. When one appears he just looks (interesting enough to pull on the leash). When it's two or more in different directions he is overwhelmed and looks panicky from one to the other. Sometimes he walks a bow and sometimes he pulls to them. How should I behave when he panics?
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If you are out with him, squat down beside him, talking to him calmly the while and hold him close. Cuddle him while reassuring him. Tell him there is nothing to worry about, Mom is with him. Stroke him, cuddle him, let him feel you are really close to him. Do NOT pick him up. Get down to his level.
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@sarahmiri said in Scared of people / crowds:
It's always humans that scare him.
That's good, if he was only scared of Martians he'd be normal.
When it's two or more in different directions he is overwhelmed and looks panicky
He might be confused about how he can protect you if danger is coming from two different places... (?)
How should I behave when he panics?
Stop walking, put your foot on the leash so his movement is limited, and tell him, "It's okay... I'm right here" until he calms down. You can pet him while you do it, you just want to reassure him that you can protect him, too. Let him know that you've got this and everything is ok.
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Do you think it helps to carry him when he gets scared?
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@sarahmiri - I would say no to carrying him.... don't pick him up, but get down to his level as Zande pointed out in her response.
