Sick Dog Question– help, please?!
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Could have been but when he gave him the dexamethasone they still had not found the problem, right? Could be why it didn't work.
And that would be Vit B-12 (shots). We gave that to our Mickii, don't really remember seeing a big difference, however it can't do any harm
We gave it to him for a few days after his surgery, too, so he probably did still have a sore mouth. I think I'll just ride it out until he's off the antibiotics and see if I see any improvement. He ate decently today… but he won't eat a bite if I put his food in a bowl. I have to put it on a flat plate and mound it into little balls that he can grab with his teeth. My vet checked his mouth and he doesn't seem to have any residual mouth pain. So I guess he's just decided that he likes food balls.
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So I guess he's just decided that he likes food balls.
Maybe he likes the presentation better…...like how mac and cheese looks all fancy when you put a sprig of parsely in the middle!
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LOL– my dog's a foodie! Next thing you know, he'll want it on a china plate decoratively bedded on lettuce with ornamental carrot curls. :)
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Get out your peeler!!! LOL
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Ha, my husband is a chef by trade, presentation is very important to him. Our Basenjis have actually had their meals on beds of lettuce a few times, especially the oldies. I'm surprised that our dogs aren't pickier eaters.
-Joanne -
I'm not even sure I have a peeler! But Spencer is sticking with his picky ways. Again today: yummy food in bowl; no interest– same food mounded into balls, ate every one.
I get that presentation is important to a chef (lucky you, Joanne, having a resident chef!) and to many people, but to a dog? Why would a dog care... or even know that one is nicer? Spencer has eaten from a bowl his entire life, and now suddenly, he's Emeril Basenji? :)
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At least he's eating it! Yea!!!!
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I'm not even sure I have a peeler! But Spencer is sticking with his picky ways. Again today: yummy food in bowl; no interest– same food mounded into balls, ate every one.
Maybe it will just be a short fad thing for him because you introduced something new. One time Billy quit eating, and because he's old I don't like him to be off his food for long. We had to tempt him with various things added to his kibble; we (or HE) finally settled on eating chicken or eggs with his kibble and a satin ball…. but we had to roll that satin ball across the floor so he could "kill" it first. I think it's an "old dog" thing. Billy's back to eating his kibble out of his dog dish.
-Joanne -
That's how I feel, too– yea, he's eating! I'm just so puzzled as to why it would make a difference how it's presented? Must be a B thing. :)
Hopefully, it will be a fad, because not everything rolls so nicely. But I'm going to keep doing whatever it takes to get the little guy to eat and try to put some weight back on him. I know what you mean about not liking the old guys to be off their food. They're calling the shots-- and they know it. Too funny about rolling that satin ball! You know what-- I would do it, too, if that's what it took. I'm glad Billy's back to normal. It's so worrisome when an old guy won't eat.
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Chuck Eisenmann used to swear by feeding his GSDs on newspaper. He felt it wasn't good to feed in a bowl because it was difficult for the dog to avoid ending up with food all over his nose. Esthetics, perhaps, but maybe Spencer feels the same way, or associates the bowl with the pain he was experiencing…..
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If anybody's still interested, I thought I would update you on the gastronomic delights and culinary adventures here at Chez Spencer. The little scamp feels sooo much better (for which I am very grateful), but he is still only interested in yummy food balls, of a kind deemed acceptable to his newly refined palate. And he still wants them on a plate, not in a bowl, which I'm OK with. I elevate it, and that seems to make him happier. I'm feeding him smaller portions four times a day, and he usually eats most of it. Unless it's chicken. Or has softened kibble mixed in. He's wise to that.
I realize that it's probably time for a little tough love, since my dog has healed and is now training me. But he's only gained back six ounces in two weeks, and he lost six pounds. That's a lot less a lot slower than we had hoped, so I fix whatever I think he'll eat and continue to shape it into little balls. I have developed two kinds: a casserole ball (with meat, rice and pasta or rice) and a sandwich ball (with meat, bread and cheese). Sometimes, there's gravy; sometimes not. So far, he hasn't requested a china plate or his water in a goblet. :)
This is just so odd. My vet, who recommended the food ball trick when Spencer's mouth was sore, has never heard of a dog refusing to accept food any other way once the mouth healed. Do I just have a prima dogga?
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My 14 year old girl used to eat dry kibble (plus the occasional human food) till she had pancreatitis 6 months ago, and I had to 'special feed' her for awhile. Now "the Princess" will only eat what she likes, various kibble (I have 4 different bags open) soaked in chicken broth, with lots of chicken or turkey or other meat on top of it to get her fired up. She is NOT too thin so if she misses a meal it's OK, but I still baby her and according to my husband, I have completely RUINED her! So, I feel your pain! I like "Prima Dogga", I sure have one too!
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Yes, Prince Spence and your Princess (this is Nicky, right?) definitely have us wrapped around their little curly tails! I know he's manipulating me, but I just don't feel I can do much about it. He has to eat– he is nothing but bones. I know this bothers me more than it bothers him (seemingly, no big deal from his POV), but I feel compelled to give in to his demands so he will eat. At 14, they have the upper paw and they know it!
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If anybody's still interested, I thought I would update you on the gastronomic delights and culinary adventures here at Chez Spencer. The little scamp feels sooo much better (for which I am very grateful), but he is still only interested in yummy food balls, of a kind deemed acceptable to his newly refined palate. And he still wants them on a plate, not in a bowl, which I'm OK with. I elevate it, and that seems to make him happier. I'm feeding him smaller portions four times a day, and he usually eats most of it. Unless it's chicken. Or has softened kibble mixed in. He's wise to that.
I realize that it's probably time for a little tough love, since my dog has healed and is now training me. But he's only gained back six ounces in two weeks, and he lost six pounds. That's a lot less a lot slower than we had hoped, so I fix whatever I think he'll eat and continue to shape it into little balls. I have developed two kinds: a casserole ball (with meat, rice and pasta or rice) and a sandwich ball (with meat, bread and cheese). Sometimes, there's gravy; sometimes not. So far, he hasn't requested a china plate or his water in a goblet. :)
This is just so odd. My vet, who recommended the food ball trick when Spencer's mouth was sore, has never heard of a dog refusing to accept food any other way once the mouth healed. Do I just have a prima dogga?
When they get old and have other health issues (for your boy that would be Fanconi), I don't think I would go the "tough love" route. If you can deal with the special feeding, I say keep on doing what is working.
If he were a young dog and healthly… then I would vote for tough love, big time.
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I am so happy to spoil my Diggie-dog. I say "He's my dog and I'll spoil him if I want to."
Have you tried increasing Spencer's exercise? That may help increase his appetite. Digital goes swimming on Thurs and his appetite spikes on that day.
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When they get old and have other health issues (for your boy that would be Fanconi), I don't think I would go the "tough love" route. If you can deal with the special feeding, I say keep on doing what is working.
If he were a young dog and healthly… then I would vote for tough love, big time.
That's what I've been thinking, too. He needs food, as much as I can get down him right now. Taking the bowl up and making him eat on my terms just seems counterproductive. He's 14 and has beaten Fanconi for 8 years, so why not indulge him? Of course, he's been spoiled for quite some time. :)
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I am so happy to spoil my Diggie-dog. I say "He's my dog and I'll spoil him if I want to."
Have you tried increasing Spencer's exercise? That may help increase his appetite. Digital goes swimming on Thurs and his appetite spikes on that day.
I've been in the "spoil 'em while we have 'em" camp for a while, too!
Spencer hasn't been getting much exercise, so I wondered about that. He has been so weak, and his thin little legs tremble when he stands. And he's been shivering, since he's lost almost all of his body fat. It's been chilly and rainy here, so I've kept him inside with a sweater on his heated dog bed. Now that he's starting to get his strength back, I'm thinking I might give him a slow walk up the street and back on the next nice day. Of course, I'll probably bundle us both up like Eskimos!
You must be used to the cold in Colorado. Spencer and I are from SoCal, so the mountains feel much colder to me (and probably him) than they really are!
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I would humour him with whatever he wants until he gains his weight back. That will be time enough to stop spoiling him…...if you have the heart to do it. With a 14 year old, I think I could live with letting him have what he wants. I have spent the last year spending an inordinate amount of time and money on a soon to be 26 year old mare who gives me far less pleasure than my Basenji does, so I guess I am just a pushover in any case. :)
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I don't know that me or the basenjis are more used to the cold, but we deal with it. Of course Digital's favorite game is fence running/fighting and with about 300 ft of shared fencing with the neighbor's dogs, they do that. I actually started the therapy swims because Digital was loosing muscle mass in his thighs and this is our holistic vet recommended. And it is so helpful in the winter.
We also wear coats (fetchdog.com is having a wonderful sale right now as I posted in another thread) - somedays inside and out. And I have heated warm things for the boyz. I would NOT do strenuous exercises with S, just a little something to get the joints/digestive systems moving. You can always do a little more the next time.
And, of course with Digital, if something happened to me, hubby would spoil him and if something happened to us both, he'd go back to Mary Turner, his breeder, who would spoil him more than we do, so he's pretty much set.
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I don't know if I suggested this, been a rough few weeks– but can you ask your vet if your dog can have cyproheptadine. It is a miracle drug, basically just an antihistamine that has and incredible effect on appetite. At about $15 to 20 for a 100 pill bottle, I'd buy stock and be their spokesperson if they wanted me.
I learned about it when Sayblee reached the can almost see her hip bones stage due to her utter lack of interest in food, any food, and all the massive blood work and testing found nothing. She simply would eat only enough to not die. I was actually putting mushy food in her mouth and massaging her throat to get her to eat in order to try to get weight back on her. My friend with a research vet suggested it, my vet ordered it, miracle. I have used it over the years with dogs with cancer, Sayblee a few years later during chemo continued to eat thanks I am sure to it, and dogs on medications that required eating when they didn't want food.
