@jengosmonkey
LOL this is a really important convo to be having! I'm honored that it takes place on my thread 😆 and yes, I absolutely agree with the points y'all are making.
People do need to know where their pups are coming from and whether they were responsibly bred. To think of it coldly, I wouldn't buy a house without looking into its history and possible problems, or I might face ridiculous stress, expense, and emotional trauma from subsequent issues that come up later. As a consumer, one should do their homework not only on the breed but on the breeder.
A breeder who produces puppies carelessly is basically a horrible human being in my book. It was a huge, thoroughly thought out moral decision for me not to adopt but to buy a purebred puppy, as I've worked with rescues before. I took this step with the possible goal of being a custodian. If a breeder is irresponsible in all the aforementioned ways, not only are they producing dogs with a higher possibility of suffering, muddying this ancient breed, and swindling people, they are needlessly taking potential homes away from dogs that need one AND frequently causing dogs to be abandoned! If there weren't any PMs or BYBs, imagine how many people would get schooled by rescue folk and responsible breeders into taking dog-parenting seriously before they ever took one home!
Sorry for the rant; I COMPLETELY understand the internal screaming that happens within some of you when you find out a pup is from a mill or crap breeder. If people like you and I keep yelling about it, we will change a few minds, which make all the difference to a few dogs which is better than no dogs 🙂
Hello, from the uk =)
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Hi, no its not…..tbh we have not come across a Sally Wallis selling Basenji's so maybe she hasnt got any left
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Hi Suzanne glad you have found the forum!
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Most reputable breeders do not list their basenji's on dog selling sites or that type of thing. You will have to search for breeders within your area and call or go to their websites.
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Thank you Basi There wasnt a lot of Breeder websites either krunzer however we have now found a few as well as been in contact with the breed club and have been very helpful.
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Welcome to the forum. Please make sure that both parents have been Fanconi tested. Are you hoping to show? The best places to check for available puppies are the secretaies of the three UK Breed Clubs. If you'd like an older dog I believe there may still be one in Rescue.
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Please make sure that both parents have been Fanconi tested. Are you hoping to show? The best places to check for available puppies are the secretaries of the three UK Breed Clubs. If you'd like an older dog I believe there may still be one in Rescue.
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Sorry, double post!!!
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yes we know about the falconi test and we know for defo one of the litters parents have been tested we still talking and waiting to hear from another few breeders and the health test questions will come up along with any others we may have.
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Why do you want a Basenji?
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Because i like the breed, always have done.
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Hello and Welcome from Canada!
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Welcome to the forum.
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Thank you for your welcomes
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hi Suzanne - welcome to the forum! You will be delighted with a basenji once you get one. I found that tons of research, both on the breed and different breeders, helped me out tremendously. Other than the breeder doing lots of health testing on the parent dogs, look for a breeder that also concerns themselves with temperament. That worked out very well for us. The other thing I would say is the breeder should state, in a contract, that if for ANY reason you cannot keep your basenji, it should go back to them (cannot be resold by you). For me, this was really important. It proved to me that our breeder really cared about the pups they were placing.
Just thought of another thing - be wary of a breeder who does not want you to visit them to see their home/dog area. That would be a red flag for me. And understand that a good breeder will really interview you, and may want to see pictures of your home, backyard, etc. to make sure the pup will be in the safest environment possible.
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hi Suzanne - welcome to the forum! You will be delighted with a basenji once you get one. I found that tons of research, both on the breed and different breeders, helped me out tremendously. Other than the breeder doing lots of health testing on the parent dogs, look for a breeder that also concerns themselves with temperament. That worked out very well for us. The other thing I would say is the breeder should state, in a contract, that if for ANY reason you cannot keep your basenji, it should go back to them (cannot be resold by you). For me, this was really important. It proved to me that our breeder really cared about the pups they were placing.
Just thought of another thing - be wary of a breeder who does not want you to visit them to see their home/dog area. That would be a red flag for me. And understand that a good breeder will really interview you, and may want to see pictures of your home, backyard, etc. to make sure the pup will be in the safest environment possible.
Hi,
Thank you for that, I will defo look for these things. I already had a few of them in mind. Thank you again x
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Hi, no its not…..tbh we have not come across a Sally Wallis selling Basenji's so maybe she hasnt got any left
I don't think Sally has bred a litter in a few years. And I believe that she does require contracts with her puppy placements, that I think you call endorsements?
Here in the US almost every responsible breeder requires a contract with puppy buyers.
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Pat, you're absolutely right about Sally.
As in the USA I think that most responsible breeders here have contracts which can include endorsements. When we talk about endorsements here we usually mean those placed on the puppies at initial Kennel club registration. These typically are 'Not to be bred From'. these endorsements can be removed at any time later in the dog's life. I don't know if you have that system there?
Archaft, I can't see any reason to object to a puppy having it's papers endorsed. Its usually a sign of responsible breeders after all. Its no reflection on the prospective purchaser.
I reiterate all that Kipawa has advised too. I would always advise prospective first time Basenji purchasers to visit Basenjis in their own homes where you can. Derbyshire is not all that far away from me and I welcome you to visit at any time to see Basenjis at home. I no longer breed so have no agenda only to ensure that people know what to expect from typical Basenjis.