Hello from Mississippi!

[tlish]

i think the people getting the "third degree" are the people who haven't purchased the pup yet. the people on this forum are trying to prevent them from perpetuating the problem of BYBs by buying from them, and trying to prevent them from future suffering with a dog with major health issues. they are trying to protect people before they purchase the pup.

for all the people who come here and introduce their new dog, they are usually asking about breeding because a lot of the dogs are actually related. if the dog does not have testing, they simply let new people know about how they can get the testing done for themselves. to my knowledge, no one has ever implied that people with poorly-bred dogs don't belong here and should never come back. nor have i seen anyone shunned because their dog came from a less-than-ideal background. please try looking at posts and giving people the benefit of the doubt that they do not have any ulterior motives. they are simply to trying help out new owners and to help out the breed as a whole.

[krunzer]

The person who was 'drove off' was a person looking for a puppy for her boyfriend for Christmas. She wanted a pup to give him for Christmas and looked a little desperate in trying to find one. Thus if she found one 'wherever' it would have been purchased without knowledge of health testing, breeding, etc. That right there is a major Red Flag. People should never just buy a puppy on a whim for Christmas or any other special holiday etc without knowing the breed. I also stated to this person that it was not an attack it was just that we as a group wanted them to know the trials and tribulations of owning a B. She herself had done no research, she just wanted a puppy…..now..... She obviously did not understand our concern or want to hear what we had to say. I just hope that she did the research needed if she did end up purchasing a puppy....from wherever it may have came from.

[eeeefarm]

An example of what I referred to in my post occurred just after I joined, and I believe it ended up with us losing a forum member. Here is a link to the thread.

http://www.basenjiforums.com/showthread.php?11761-Been-reading-the-site-for-awhile-its-time-to-show-off-my-boy

This person had their dog before they joined. I think it is unfortunate that we lost him because of an overzealous reaction to his dog's origins. It's fine to try to steer people in a responsible direction, but I'm sure it's pretty tough to be on the receiving end when you were just hoping to join a forum and expected to be welcomed, not buried in a sea of judgmental comments. It's easier to convince people if you don't alienate them first!

I apologize to the OP for the thread hijack. Perhaps we should take this discussion somewhere else if it is going to continue? Oh, and Merry Christmas, everyone!

[Patty]

Nate, please don't be put off by some of the negative comments in response to your posting. There's always someone who can spoil it foir the rest and they can generally be ignored.

It's always interesting to read the breeding of other Basenjs and I see no harm in somebody asking. After all it could turn out to be a relation by Basenji. Actually it's very likely that most of our Basenjis are related at some point - I've traced many of the Basenjis on this forum back to common UK ancestors.

[Will_s]

Is it also normal for breeders to go off forum (email) to discern breeding, because they lost contact with someone they sold a dog too?

[Will_s]

it just seems a little OCD in the forum, because all basenji's are related here or should be according the folks that track it, and you know you do.

Do you seek out the one's you lost, and are out of your control, yes, and ask new pup owner's where they got pup's you don't know about. YES.

As a recipient of one such pup, to have in my home as a pet, then come here, a whole different perspective starts to open up, and persists because you condone it by using health as an over ridding factor, sorry, doesn't cut it in today's society. They are two different questions, so quit transferring the justification for one to the other.

[krunzer]

So all of this goes back to the 2008 thread about your B Marley?

[lvoss]

You totally hi-jacked this poor person's welcome thread and seem to have successfully run them off since they haven't posted again since you went on a rant against everyone on this forum. If you have questions about whether breeders work diligently to stay in contact with their puppies for their entire lives, why not start a new thread instead of continuing to post in this person's welcome. Obviously you are hanging on to a lot of anger.

[Patty]

Nate, please come back!

[Will_s]

Yes, I did hijack the thread, my apologies to the op.