@helle-devi
Thank you for responding. I have already been in touch with the basenji sisters. I was not aware before I contacted them that they are located in CA. I think the distance between us is too great. If things didn’t work out between my basenji and one of their girls, the distance would be a problem. I did become a member on the Facebook site that you recommended. Thank you so much! I was unaware that such a site existed.
Jo Ann
Basenji Wanted Texas
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Here I am continuing my hunt for a basenji. I've been trying to adopt a B from brat but have yet to be sucessful. I applied for Makela and really wanted her but today got the sad news that they don't think she's right for me because I have kids. I guess brat is out.
I talked to Khani's and am really interested in one of her girls but since shipping is expensive I don't know if I can do it.
How many kids and how old?
As both a rescuer and breeder, I hate hearing rescues and breeders who absolutely won't place ANY dog with people with kids under 5 or under 10 etc. Nothing is absolute. But I can't remember ever placing with an infant or toddler as I never felt the dog would get the attention it needed when you have very young ones needing so much time. I also felt if they weren't willing to wait til those babies were more independent (at least 3 or 4), probably not a good placement. I am sure there are exceptions, but Basenjis do need a lot of exercise and attention. Even adults. Sure a mature adult (say 5 to older) who is used to young kids. But if your kids are older than toddlers, you really should be able to find the right dog with Brat or a breeder.
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Both of our kids were born into an existing Basenji home. With those we bred and raised to keep & show there was never a problem. We did have to move one B that we bought as an adult with no children in the house hold, out to live with my husbands parents, he snapped when the toddler tripped and fell on him. Later, when she was older there was no problem when she visited her Grandparents. I truly believeif they are raised with well mannered children they will be fine.
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LOL well, see, my child was born and many rotties came after, a few while she was an infant or toddler. But you are a breeder, I am a breeder, we have systems worked out and tons of experience. But that said, my child came first and I know that the pups I kept did not get as much attention as those that came after she was past the toddler stage. We adjusted, but was it ideal? No.
And when I am placing a rescue or my own, and I can choose between a family with a baby or equally good family without one, I'll go with the no baby. If they get pregnant after the fact, the pup is settled into the routine.
In fact one of my best owners flew from WA state to GA to pick up her pup. Less than 6 wks later found out she was pregnant. But she had more Rottweiler experience than I had, grew up in Germany doing schutzhund with her dad. In fact, she was the ONLY person I felt competent to take my male Rottie if I died before him. However, even in her home, HER pup ended up being her son's dog because he was the one (due to her being pregnant and then the baby) who actually gave the dog most of his training and attention.
Like I said, there are exceptions. But do you really think it is ideal to have baby and NEW dog or puppy?
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I've also heard of County Hearts Hound Rescue. I bought Tesla from a breeder in Humble, TX. He has sold all of his for this year, but said they are expecting a couple litters in January/February.
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I've also heard of County Hearts Hound Rescue. I bought Tesla from a breeder in Humble, TX. He has sold all of his for this year, but said they are expecting a couple litters in January/February.
Who was the breeder?
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Who was the breeder?
Rick Lamascus. I was a little disappointed when I got Tesla from him, but things have been okay now. He kept his dogs outside - which can get extremely hot. He didn't give them any flea prevention or heartworm prevention - which is a horrible idea for what is basically Houston area. Mosquitoes are terrible there. Also, the dogs weren't socialized with people, so now I have to struggle with getting her to go up to and be okay with meeting people. Tesla had an umbilical hernia which I know is common, but needs to get fixed, and he still charged me full price for her, when she was the only one who had one. So a little frustrating. He did have good cages for them though. He made them to house a litter or two with plenty of running space so they weren't cramped.
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Rick Lamascus. I was a little disappointed when I got Tesla from him, but things have been okay now. He kept his dogs outside - which can get extremely hot. He didn't give them any flea prevention or heartworm prevention - which is a horrible idea for what is basically Houston area. Mosquitoes are terrible there. Also, the dogs weren't socialized with people, so now I have to struggle with getting her to go up to and be okay with meeting people. Tesla had an umbilical hernia which I know is common, but needs to get fixed, and he still charged me full price for her, when she was the only one who had one. So a little frustrating. He did have good cages for them though. He made them to house a litter or two with plenty of running space so they weren't cramped.
I would not recommend his to anyone for a puppy. He does not health test (has the sire and dam of your pup been DNA tested for Fanconi?)
He was caught by AKC after he put a banner on his web site that he was an AKC "approved" breeder. AKC has no such thing and he was made to remove it. To purchase or refer people to a Back Yard Breeder like this is to encourage him to keep breeding. And I especially would never recommend him due to the temperament problems that no socialization causes.By the way, not to defend him but having an unbilical hernia would not be a reason for any breeder to reduce the price. They don't really need to be fixed and are usually only done when a spay or neuter is happening. I only ever had one fixed other then during a spay/neuter and that was when Mickii's ruptured due to puppies from Maggii's litter trying to nurse on it…(:eek:)
If the sire and dam of your pup had not been DNA tested for Fanconi, I would encourage you to do so.
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Okay my mouth is open… Can you explain why you would RECOMMEND an irresponsible backyard breeder to anyone? Can you justify suggesting someone ELSE give the scum money to keep producing dogs? Okay walking out now.
Pat... I agree if the umbilical hernia is okay, but sometimes they DO need repair immediately. I am not sure I'd trust such a breeder to tell me the truth!!!
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If you are not able to find a suitable dog through rescue. Please, do your homework and get one from a responsible breeder. Do not put money in the pockets of a BYB.
Here are links to article on
Why Buy From A Responsible Breeder
http://kineticbasenjis.tripod.com/Information/Buying_a_Basenji.htmlWhy Do Responsibly Bred Puppy Cost So Much
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Wybark basenjis in KS has a very nice 8 month old brindle girl available to a pet home, but that may be too far for you to travel. Let me know if you want Ann's email info. You would probably do better to contact the Dallas Ft. Worth basenji club or Indian Nations basenji club now to get on a breeders reservations for the fall breedings. I do know of one breeder in our coursing club who plans a litter in the panhandle this year. I would also recommend going to some of the upcoming dog shows in your area to meet the breeders and their dogs There are shows in humble, carrolton, Austin and belton in Oct, and Houston in Nov. If you are on facebook, I have dozens of friends in TX who have basenjis that I could point you to.
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Here I am continuing my hunt for a basenji. I've been trying to adopt a B from brat but have yet to be sucessful. I applied for Makela and really wanted her but today got the sad news that they don't think she's right for me because I have kids. I guess brat is out.
Have you looked at this one from BRAT? She is in Texas.
"TEMPERAMENT: VERY SHY BUT EXTREMELY SWEET AND LOVING. LOVES KIDS, EVEN TODDLERS."
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I know the expense of a well-bred dog (and shipping if necessary) can be a bit much… but in the long run, you are usually much happier and don't go through the majority of the horror stories you hear about the BYB and PM dogs.
I know there are many breeders that won't place pups in homes with little children. I am beyond the opposite on that thought.
I prefer my pups/dogs to go into kid-chaotic homes. These places give the dog ample opportunity to get tired out each day.
Sure, kids pull on ears, tails, etc... but so do I when they are puppies here... which prepares them for upcoming homes.Research and get recommendations... don't rely on the fact the person is a Basenji Club of America member. And also check for local club membership. If they are not a member of a local club, WHY??? Ask for local and country-wide references.. if another breeder (excluding family members) can't recommend them, WHY NOT???
Best of luck to you with whatever route you choose!
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I would not recommend his to anyone for a puppy. He does not health test (has the sire and dam of your pup been DNA tested for Fanconi?)
He was caught by AKC after he put a banner on his web site that he was an AKC "approved" breeder. AKC has no such thing and he was made to remove it. To purchase or refer people to a Back Yard Breeder like this is to encourage him to keep breeding. And I especially would never recommend him due to the temperament problems that no socialization causes.By the way, not to defend him but having an unbilical hernia would not be a reason for any breeder to reduce the price. They don't really need to be fixed and are usually only done when a spay or neuter is happening. I only ever had one fixed other then during a spay/neuter and that was when Mickii's ruptured due to puppies from Maggii's litter trying to nurse on it…(:eek:)
If the sire and dam of your pup had not been DNA tested for Fanconi, I would encourage you to do so.
Wow. I was unaware of this. I'm incredibly sorry that I did refer him. I'll refrian from doing so. This is my first dog and first time buying one. I'll definitely do more research this next time. Sorry.
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Wow. I was unaware of this. I'm incredibly sorry that I did refer him. I'll refrian from doing so. This is my first dog and first time buying one. I'll definitely do more research this next time. Sorry.
Don't be sorry, this is how we all learn… I am just happy that you see that there is a big difference in breeders and now can learn how to find a responsible one.
Again I do urge you to do the DNA Fanconi testing on your pup, if the sire and dam have not been. (and I don't think this particular person does any testing). You can learn about DNA Fanconi test at www.basenji.org. The cost is 65.00 and you order the cheek swab at www.offa.org.
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I find it appalling that this breeder does not give HW medication to dogs in an area where heartworm is common, especially when the dogs live outside! That is denying basic medical care to a dog. It was 100 degrees in Houston today and the heat index was close to 110. I do not know how a dog could tolerate it all day long. When I lived in Houston, the television stations would give warnings about leaving pets outside when it was this hot.
How much does he charge for a Basenji?
Jennifer
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It was 100 degrees in Houston today and the heat index was close to 110. I do not know how a dog could tolerate it all day long.
Ah, but we are talking about an African dog.
I certainly don't support the lack of medical care, but these dogs are bred to live and work in a hot climate. Given adequate shade and water, not having A/C should not be considered a hardship, IMHO. (my current Basenji was raised in an air conditioned house, and he is easily the least heat tolerant of the Basenjis I have owned. My girls would not pant unless they were working hard in extremely hot weather, but he does) -
eeefarm, are you really serious? you wrote.. I certainly don't support the lack of medical care, but these dogs are bred to live and work in a hot climate. Given adequate shade and water, not having A/C should not be considered a hardship, IMHO…...
IMO, that is totally incorrect thinking. THEY were not born in Africa, they don't live in Africa and they should be housed more humanely in the US. -
eeefarm, are you really serious? you wrote.. I certainly don't support the lack of medical care, but these dogs are bred to live and work in a hot climate. Given adequate shade and water, not having A/C should not be considered a hardship, IMHO…...
IMO, that is totally incorrect thinking. THEY were not born in Africa, they don't live in Africa and they should be housed more humanely in the US.No, these particular dogs were not born in Africa. But I would be a lot more concerned about the probable lack of socialization living outside, than the hot climate. If they are accustomed to living in hot conditions, I don't see the problem. It's not so very long ago that we didn't have air conditioning for people, let alone dogs, and some folks (including me) do not have air conditioned houses in any case. Granted that it is hotter in Texas than here, (although this year we've had more than our share of hot days) but dogs who have access to water and shade should do fine if they are used to living in those conditions. (I agree it would be inappropriate to take a dog raised in air conditioning and kick it outside in the heat)
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Alot of dogs die in Africa because of the conditions in which they live. Just because they are an African breed is no reason not to give them humane care. It is not safe for dogs in such high temperatures, no matter what the breed. Even with shade and water there is a high risk of heat stroke and that leads to death.
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Alot of dogs die in Africa because of the conditions in which they live. Just because they are an African breed is no reason not to give them humane care. It is not safe for dogs in such high temperatures, no matter what the breed. Even with shade and water there is a high risk of heat stroke and that leads to death.
I agree and it also depends on the type of "shade" and care given. Dirty pens on dirty with only something like a tarp for some shade is not enough. Consider in the heat of Africia, dogs dig holes and deep to get the cooling of the layers below. And they do not lay in the same holes day after day after day… and they dig those holes under the bush, under trees... not in a pen that they are stuck in again, day after day after day. And also consider that we in the US do not have to let our companions live in those kind of conditions.. and if you do, then you need to reconsider why you have those animals to begin with.
eeeefarm, nothing personal, but I think you are way off base here
