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  • Has Rosie has an ultrasound of her liver and spleen? My Max had suddenly become anemic and was starting to refuse food - only eating little bits at a time of pure protein (normally he would eat rice, veggies, along with the meat and anything else that came his way). He'd act ravenous when he did eat. His stools were either really runny or sometimes mixed. Sadly, he ended up having an enlarged spleen and liver with tumors in the spleen. They had suggested a splinectomy, but it was too late and since he was a senior -13yrs old- he was possibly having autoimmune problems. If I had known earlier, I may have been able to save him.

  • I'm not sure if potatoes are good for Dogs or not Mike, i'm sure there are better things but Benji was an old man and i reckoned it was better that he ate something rather than nothing. It was lovely to see him enjoying something.
    Do you think it's possible Rosie is playing you up a bit ? I'm not saying there is nothing wrong with her but it doesn't mean she's not manipulating you ;)
    As we know they are a very smart breed :D
    Hope she enjoys her Sunday roast !

  • Well, of course, I'm well used to dealing with finicky eaters, having learned a lot from our first Great Dane puppy 35 years ago! There may be an element of that but we never had a problem with her or Bing, our late male Basenji, in their first eight or nine years! But it's roast beef today for her! And potatoes - you're right: now's not the time to be too restrictive…

  • Well, Rosie's had her Sunday roast - beef, Yorkshire pudding, roast potatoes, green beans, sprouts & parsnips! Not only did she eat the biggest meal in many a day but, had there been a pattern on her bowl, that would have gone too!

    So, guess what her next meal will be tonight!

  • I'm so glad to hear Rosie is eating! Great news. I'm sorry I wrote such a scary post previously, but I feel if I had any hints from others with experience, I could have possibly saved Max.
    Best wishes for Rosie for a continued hearty appetite!

  • No, not scary at all - it made me think and you could yet be right so I appreciate your concern and advice. we will be talking to our vet in the morning so we'll ask about an ultrasound check.

    Thank you!

  • Glad Rosie enjoyed her roast, i'm not surprised it sounds delicious :D
    Benji was indifferent to food all his life for some reason, so when he became ill it just exagerated the problem.
    Hope everything goes ok for Rosie at the vets today.

  • I've just read your posting having been at Crufts for three days. I'm sorry to hear that Rosie is ill again.

    Re Shelley's advice - dogs often used to be fed on just himan left overs but of course we don't have so much of that nowadays. I agree that what she will eat let her eat.

    There was a dog food I noticed at Crufts which was a mixture of rice, herbs green veg and meat of course (no kibble) cooked and just required to moisten it with water before feeding. The developer was explaining that acid foods were bad for dogs and that they should be fed on alkaline food. The explanation was believable. I wonder if that would suit Rosie? If you're interested I'll get more details.

    Did you try the Osmoinds supplement? Is it worth contacting Frank to find out whether the others from the litter had similar problems?

    Do you think a probiotic might help?

    Do let us know how things went at the vets, please.

  • Yes, Patty, I'm actually giving her Osmonds' Vigoro (because it has useful supplements) + Aloe Vera with a syringe. I have the 'Gutrite' but that seemed to put her off. Her favourite new food is Skinners Muesli which she used to have. I would be interested in the food you saw at Crufts. We also saw some on one of the Crufts programmes called Natural Instinct which is entirely raw - meat + veg. I know from the past that raw foods are best so may try that.

    On the basis that she is eating & 'performing' better the vet is keeping her on steroids to see whether she can now put on weight. She is certainly more like her old self while still thin.

    Your suggestion re frank is a good one so I might contact him.

    Mike

  • Mike - the food is called Robbie's Holistic Cuisine and the website is www.landofholisticpets.co.uk Personally i always feed raw as I believe it's closer to natural but although this food is pre-cooked the principles sound very credible. The producer is a respected nutritionist, George Burns.

    When you contact Frank please don't mention that I suggested you do so as he seems to have fallen out with me although Barbara was a very good friend of mine!

  • Thanks Patty. No I won't say who sent me! ;)

  • Hi Mike

    I have used Robbies food in the past and TBH none of my dogs touched it. It sounded good etc so I bought lots. Maybe you will have better luck with it then me. My boy Chance is the fussiest eater alive and I give him whatever he will eat. I have 2 packs of the Natural Instinct in my freezer but have not tried them yet. I also bought one called Natures Menu from Crufts. It was OK but Chance didn't go mad for it. Chance's favourite is Lamb breast, I pot-roast it and just cut it up small for him - he can't get enough of it.

    It is really difficult trying to finds something that a fussy dog will eat. A friend of mine has suggested something called Vit-B (I think). I don;t know anything about it but it's a supplement which is supposed to increase appetite. I will try to find out more and see if it might be suitable for your girl.

    Does she like Chicken Wings? Mine all enjoy these. :)

    Regards

    Vicki Miller
    Benkura Basenjis

  • http://www.vitamins-nutrition.org/vitamins/vitamins-dog.html

    I googled B Vitamins for dogs and the above link gives quite good info. There is also a product called PROVIT-B, I think this is what my friend recommended to me.

    Anything is worth a try. :)

  • Thanks, Vicki.

    I'd love to know how you do get on with Natural Instinct. Do you feed the chicken wings raw, as a Daney friend of ours does? In fact she feeds whole raw chickens to them (after they've been killed of course!!!)

  • Hi Mike.

    Yes the chicken wings are raw. I was very wary at first but the dogs love them. We used to buy frozen from our dog food supplier but Tesco do value fresh ones which are better.

    I'm defrosting the Natural Instinct just now so will prob be for tea tomorrow night. Will let you know how we get on.

    Vicki

  • Vicki - try Garlic and Fenugreek powder from Animal Health for fussy eaters. I've heard it works but never having had a fussy Basenji haven't tried it myself!

    Incidentally - never buy lots when trying a new food - you can bet your life that they'll go off it if you've brought large quantities!!!! My nearest dog rescue used to have plenty of food donations from us when we had Koyu!!!!!

  • Thanks Helena. I already give the dogs Garlic & Fenugreek from Dorwest Herbs. Chance also gets Keepers Mix from them which seems to help a little, but do you know what is really working at the mo for Chance?????…............

    Puppy. :)

    Chance always guards his food and hates it if he thinks someone else is going to steel it. Puppy goes up to his crate, he grumps at her and then scoffs his food. :D He's looking nice now - shame I had to work so hard for Crufts!

    Mike - maybe your answer to your girl's poor eating is GET A NEW PUPPY HAHA. :D

    Also, I put down some of the Natural Instincts food this morning and so far he hasn't touched it. However, he does tend to eat more in the afternoon so will report back later.

  • Umm.. Yes, thanks for the puppy suggestion but I think I'll stick to giving her food she likes!

    She ate her biggest meal for a while last night (muesli + raw beef mince). So while we might be succeeding for now in keeping her eating, what we really want to see is some weight going on & so far we're not. Not an encouraging sign really. But we'll keep on while she's keeping on…

  • Glad to hear she's eating something good. It really is difficult with a fussy dog. Chance's favourite is Lamb breast but I can't just feed him that forever. He likes Strawberries and Satsumas but isn't so keen on veg. Porridge is usually good as is rice pudding and Weetabix.

    What I do find is that I get carried away. When Chance does eat a good meal I try to feed him more and more but shouldn't as this means he then won't eat much for another few days. I now live by the rule When he's hungry he'll eat and try not to push him.

    I hope your girl continues to eat well and put on some weight. :)

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