Wild pack of basenjis in rural Florida


  • The court date is the 11th, fingers crossed the county assumes ownership of these guys. Animal Control knows these basenjis are way more than they can handle so are happy to work with BRAT. They are being very generous in allowing us to work with the dogs as they are "Investigation" dogs, usually only their long term volunteers and employees work with dogs in legal disputes. Again, it shows their sensitivity to the special needs of these feral basenjis.


  • I hope all the dogs from this place are spayed and neutered, it is a health concern due the the inbreeding…and to prevent their genes into the Basenji pool.

  • Houston

    NerdyDogOwner, regardless of these dogs futures, they most certainly( I sure hope) will be spayed/neuterd before they leave these shelter locations, or once they are moved into foster homes( not adoptive homes)


  • Any time a shelter gets an animal it is almost inevitable it will be altered before placement…unless it is too young, in which case a contract is made that the animal will be altered.

    Regarding their entry into the gene pool: I'm not sure exactly how "inbred" they are. They all look fairly healthy and don't exhibit signs of generational inbreeding. However, their heritage cannot be fully verified. Since this is the case, I don't think they are eligible for entry into the stud book.

    Ms. Tanza or Ms. Khanis can answer this better than I can, but from what I'm seeing, only native stock imported from Africa or those animals whose parentage can be verified are allowed entry into the stud book.


  • Animal shelter getting calls to adopt basenjis
    February 2, 2010

    < http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/02/animal-services-seeking-custody-basenjis/


  • That reporter called and interviewed my husband on the phone, within 30 minutes that article appeared on-line! Don had called the reporter the day the first article appeared and they talked a bit then. Guess he kept our phone number. He got a bit of what Don told him right, such is the media! Don kept telling him to call Pam for more information. As far as I know, none are actually out in foster care. The moms and tiny pups are in isolation, but still there at Animal Control.


  • Thank you for the correction.


  • I didn't mean any correction, people probably have been calling to adopt! We let Pam do all the direct communication with the shelter. The article had originally said that some of the basenjis were already placed in foster care, not that I know of.


  • MacPack-
    I thought the article was nice, but, uhm, I gotta say, Zest will bring me my slippers if she knows where they are and if there's is a cookie involved. So, well, there's that.


  • Nicky might bring my shoes, but there will be a chunk gone when she gets here! Don read it and said, well, the guy quoted a little of what he said correctly.
    We're going back Saturday morning, wish I was retired and could spend every morning out there!


  • Sorry, guess I was not supposed to have written anything about the shelter dogs, no one ever told any of us not to share any info. Sorry. The very last thing anyone would want is to compromise this case in any way.


  • MacPack, I appreciate the inforamtion, the correct informtion. Who said you shouldn't share it with us?


  • Ms. Sharron, when there is a criminal investigation in progress, the less information released to the public, the better. It's amazing how a tiny bit of information can compromise an entire investigation.

    A fine example of this was when the US was tracking Osama Bin Laden and information was released to the press that cel phone usage was being tracked. Until that point, Intelligence had a pretty good idea where he was. After this tidbit was printed and spouted all over the nightly news, Bin Laden changed his communication tactic and went further underground. We haven't found him yet.

    I'm not bringing this up to open a can of worms or start a political discussion. I am only illustrating how releasing the smallest detail can hinder law enforcement and military operations.

    I, too, appreciate the update, but can understand why the authorities want to keep any information close to the vest.

  • Houston

    MacPack, I like the updates as well..


  • Ms AJ, I understand what your saying. I am seeing that the BRAT person working with the shelter is posting information to several basenjis lists.
    She even asked for folk who wanted to help these b's be socialized, step forward.
    I will post that latest post next. I think the issue is what was wrongly written in the paper. THAT is the inforamation that is the issue. At least, that is my understanding.
    Pat wrote in her latest update….......
    Subject: BRAT BUSINESS: February 4 Update on Florida basenjis

    Here is the latest update on the confiscated basenjis in Florida from Pam
    Hamilton:

    Greetings,

    First, I would like to thank everyone for their support. I have had
    lots of positive feedback and offers of help. I wish I had time to
    thank everyone individually. I will contact offers of help as the need
    arises and as the timing fits. I will let everyone know when we reach
    a point that help needs change. Currently, we are working on
    socializing. We will hopefully soon need special foster homes,
    transportation, and approved adoptive homes, pending, of course, the outcome
    of custody hearings.

    Here is the latest update regarding the confiscated basenjis in
    Hillsborough and Pinellas Counties:

    SPCA: No news from officials at this time.

    HCAS: HCAS officials have been very satisfied with BRAT's assistance
    thus far. They would like to continue with me as their one point of
    contact for all communication. They are pleased with the progress
    they've seen in the dogs. This is the first time that they have allowed a
    rescue group to assist in this fashion. We would like to make
    sure that it is a success that will encourage use of breed rescues in
    the future at this facility. They have been extremely busy with a very
    full facility and a large number of confiscation investigations and
    relinquishing cases, as well as making sure that the dogs were
    sufficiently vetted to minimize spreading parasites, so it has taken a
    bit of time to get the process in motion. Please respect the rules and
    procedures that have been established to minimize the work for
    everyone involved.

    HCAS officials and I had another meeting yesterday. Procedures will
    continue to be tweaked as time progresses. Volunteers who have
    already been to our first orientation will need a mini-reorientation.
    Any other orientation sessions will include this material brought up
    in our latest meeting. I have a collection of material that I will be
    emailing to volunteers. I will also work on setting up schedules. We can
    plan on meeting on Saturday, February 6. We should soon be able to add
    Sundays to the schedule since the Shelter is making changes to maximize the
    use of volunteers. As part of the tweaking process, it has been determined
    that I should be there whenever BRAT-organized volunteers are there,
    at least until the project is well underway. Please be very sensitive
    to the fact that these dogs are part of a custody investigation. No
    pictures of or communications about the dogs are to be disseminated to
    anyone outside of the volunteer group unless it has been specifically
    approved by me. I check in with the investigation officer to make sure
    that anything that may be shared will not be damaging to their case.
    Please do not jeopardize the use of our rescue's assistance by
    violating this.

    The dogs are doing remarkably well given the stressful environment
    (barking poodles are hard to ignore). Reduction of parasite loads is
    starting to show as a healthier distribution of their weight. A couple
    have taken to the leash quickly. They know me quite well, whine when I
    leave and greet me with a wag when I return. Socialization has begun
    for many in their pens. The facility has a small park that is just for
    the use of the investigation dogs. We have begun to get some out to
    the park, in pairs or groups when appropriate. It is amazing how
    quickly they become "normal" once they are out in the park - and once
    they realize that the human has some good qualities. While most are
    man-shy, many will come up to the gate to greet volunteers who visit
    regularly with treats - bribes work! The ones that were most at risk due
    to health concerns are currently in foster care and are flourishing.
    The next step in determining their future is a custody hearing
    February 11, which will be followed by a 30 day hold for appeals,
    assuming custody is awarded to HCAS. Much of this was covered in an
    online, to-be-printed news article:
    http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/02/animal-services-seeking-custody-basenjis/
    .

    If you would like to help with socialization and haven't yet been
    contacted, please respond to me at flbasenji@earthlink.net with the
    subject of "HCAS basenji socialization". I have been getting hundreds
    of emails - the subject will help me to find you quickly. I must use a
    form response when I can, given the number of emails I am receiving.
    If you have additional questions, please send me a separate email with
    the subject generally indicating what you need, if possible (ie,
    transport, fostering, adopting, etc.). Other routine BRAT activities
    in FL have greatly increased as the confiscation cases have been
    unfolding, so anything that you can do to help keep communication
    simple, efficient and quick is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks again for all of your support,

    Pam


    Pam Hamilton
    FL District Coordinator
    Advisory Director
    Basenji Rescue and Transport

    Debbi Johnson
    BRAT Treasurer & Director
    Germantown, TN
    debbijbasenjirescue@comcast.net


  • Thank you for the update, Ms. Sharron.


  • Oh, my unmet friend..your very welcome. I think the whole basenji community is very interested in how this works out for these dogs.
    Sigh. I wish they could make sure this fellow doesn't get any more dogs of ANY breed.
    Sigh.


  • From Pam Hamilton and Debbi Johnson:

    Greetings from not-so-sunny-or-warm Florida!

    As many of you are probably aware, the hearing was held Thursday, Feb. 11, to determine the custody of the basenjis confiscated by HCAS (Hillsborough County Animal Services). The owner did not show up for the custody hearing. The judge heard a brief review of the case, promptly awarded custody to HCAS, waived the 30 day appeal period and enjoined Mr. Holland from owning any animals in Hillsborough County. It will take a bit of time to finalize paperwork. It is currently the intention of HCAS to have BRAT take the basenjis and rehome them. More details on that process will follow soon. It will take time, money and manpower to get this unique batch of basenjis onto their new lives in real homes. Donations will be gratefully appreciated for this significant endeavor.

    Debbi has spent the week running around with Pam, taking care of basenjis young and old. Mr. Holland's basenjis have gone without vetting for so long that getting all of his basenjis parasite free and healthy has taken some time. Debbi's now had the chance to experience a bit of the nursemaid duties.

    I will provide a description of the characteristics and personalities that this line has. Adopters and fosters must be able to demonstrate that they will be able to meet the needs of these intense and high-level basenjis. They have neat personalities, but they are a bit like "Jolt" - a high-caffeine, high-sugar soda - lots of kick and energy.

    It has been a pleasure to work so closely with a shelter to help basenjis. I hope that more shelters will work with us in this fashion in the future.

    We have not yet had any news from the SPCA in Pinellas County.

    Thank you all for your continued support.

    Pam & Debbi


  • Great news!


  • Guess it's OK to talk about them now! We had 4 of the older pups, probably 5-6 months old, out together playing in a small dog run at the shelter today. What a difference, they ran, tussled, were full of joy. We sat beside the cages of some of the more fearful adults and just talked to them and tossed hot dog bits. Some of the males will take bites from hands, but they are the braver, more curious ones. Hopefully the pups will get adopted quickly so Pam and her volunteers can work more with the shy adults, they will be more of a challenge. It was way cool to see those 4 pups playing!

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