re: Pat's comment about 'forever' I have a guy here that is over 14 whose family just decided that their daughters friends coming in throught the gate to the back door - left the gate open and Wilie would go off on adventures. So rather than have the friends use the FRONT door - Wilie came back to me at age 9 . Was it convenient - nope - did I even give it a moments thought - nope - my breeding my responsibility.
Tried to place him a couple of times but - he was 'too old' and no one wanted him. It's hard for him to be one of several rather than have his own heat vent, couch and family but…....
I don´t know how it is in the US but here in sweden you can have two litters after that you have to apply for a kennel name.I agree with the rest please test your dog´s for fanconi it´s the only way we can eradicate this hideous disease that has brought so much suffering to dog´s and distress to their owners.
You mentioned that pup´s are ready for delivery between 6-8 weeks please do not sell the pup´s before they are atleast 8 weeks it´s so important for their well being these last two weeks.
Good Luck with your puppies,Michelle Stockholm Sweden
No requirement in US for application for kennel name… The only requirement would be with AKC and DNA testing for parentage for frequent breeders
We apply and then it takes awhile to get it accepted. In Finland they are even stricter there you have to pass a breeders exam it takes over a year to go the course then the exam and then your´re vetted to see if you pass and there are tough questions about genetics etc….And then you get your kennel name if it doesn´t already exist. As every name goes through the FCI(federation cynologicue International)database to see that no one else has that name like a kennel in brazil.And your kennel application is published in the national dogmagazine for 30 days where people can send a protest if they find your name too close to theirs or something else.
heheh. that sounds so finnish 
We apply and then it takes awhile to get it accepted. In Finland they are even stricter there you have to pass a breeders exam it takes over a year to go the course then the exam and then your´re vetted to see if you pass and there are tough questions about genetics etc….And then you get your kennel name if it doesn´t already exist. As every name goes through the FCI(federation cynologicue International)database to see that no one else has that name like a kennel in brazil.And your kennel application is published in the national dogmagazine for 30 days where people can send a protest if they find your name too close to theirs or something else.
I wish the US would do what the Finnish do…. maybe then we would not have as many BYB out there selling
Have the puppies been born yet? What sex and colors did she have?
She had the puppies on Dec 12. 4 males and 2 Female. The females are red/white. 2 of the males are red/white and 2 males are black/white. I didn't think it was possible to have black/white unless one parent is black/white. At least that's what I have read anyway I could be wrong. The mother is brindle/white and the male is red/white.
All of the puppies have a full white collar and white on their face from their noses to between their eyes. And of course they have the white feet/belly and tips of tails. They went yesterday to get their dew claws taken out.
The mother did wonderful and she's doing good.
She had the puppies on Dec 12. 4 males and 2 Female. The females are red/white. 2 of the males are red/white and 2 males are black/white. I didn't think it was possible to have black/white unless one parent is black/white. At least that's what I have read anyway I could be wrong. The mother is brindle/white and the male is red/white.
All of the puppies have a full white collar and white on their face from their noses to between their eyes. And of course they have the white feet/belly and tips of tails. They went yesterday to get their dew claws taken out.
The mother did wonderful and she's doing good.
The 'blacks' are most likely tri or trindle, and their tan parts will show up later. You do have to have a black parent to get a black puppy.
How much later may I ask?
We had 1 tri 2 years ago and we could tell right way, her cheeks and eyes were already red. We also had 2 extemely dark brindles last time as well but we could still see the color difference. I thought it was pretty crazy. Every thing I read points to not possible.
I'll keep you updated if any color changes.
How much later may I ask?
We had 1 tri 2 years ago and we could tell right way, her cheeks and eyes were already red. We also had 2 extemely dark brindles last time as well but we could still see the color difference. I thought it was pretty crazy. Every thing I read points to not possible.
I'll keep you updated if any color changes.
Usually within 5 to 7 days you will start to see the eye "pips" on a tri… and/or Trindle
I see you did the dew claws, did you send for the fanconis test?
How much later may I ask?
We had 1 tri 2 years ago and we could tell right way, her cheeks and eyes were already red. We also had 2 extemely dark brindles last time as well but we could still see the color difference. I thought it was pretty crazy. Every thing I read points to not possible.
I'll keep you updated if any color changes.
My tri pup was obvious right away. But I have heard of others that didn't show for several days. Also if they are trindle, you could have stripes in the red so it would look much darker.
Thanks a lot.
No I have not done the test yet but I did contact the owner of the mother of my litter. She has both parents of my female–she said that they have been tested and neither have it.
I've read you can test their if their is sugar in their urine and if there is not then they don't have it. And the urine should be tested monthly and if it shows up then to get them tested. Is that true? Either way they will be tested way now that I have read more about it and am more informed.
Thanks a lot.
No I have not done the test yet but I did contact the owner of the mother of my litter. She has both parents of my female–she said that they have been tested and neither have it.
I've read you can test their if their is sugar in their urine and if there is not then they don't have it. And the urine should be tested monthly and if it shows up then to get them tested. Is that true? Either way they will be tested way now that I have read more about it and am more informed.
It is true that if you "strip" test the urine monthly you can tell if they have Fanconi on that day, however that is not the same as the DNA test that will tell you if they will get Fanconi… Since we now have a DNA test all breeding considered should have Fanconi tested DNA before the breeding takes place. That way you know if there could be Fanconi produced in that litter and NOT do the breeding... because now there is no reason to ever produce a possible Fanconi affected Basenji.
I would guess that the people that have the parents of your bitch have only done the month strip test, but not the DNA test.
Thanks a lot.
No I have not done the test yet but I did contact the owner of the mother of my litter. She has both parents of my female–she said that they have been tested and neither have it.
I've read you can test their if their is sugar in their urine and if there is not then they don't have it. And the urine should be tested monthly and if it shows up then to get them tested. Is that true? Either way they will be tested way now that I have read more about it and am more informed.
This is not true. Urine testing only tells you the dog's status on that day and tells you nothing about whether it will produce the disorder since carriers will be unaffected but can produce the disease. You must do the DNA Marker Test to know if your dog carries the gene to produce the disorder. Also, since the disease is late onset, the dog or its parents may not yet be symptomatic but could still be affected.
If your dogs' parents are not in the OFA database as tested, http://www.offa.org, then they have not been tested and you need to order test kits for your dogs. https://secure.offa.org/cart.html
One parent must test Probably Clear to ensure that none of your puppies will ever be Affected. If neither parent is clear you will need to test all the puppies before placing them.
Please, be more responsible than the folks who sold you the dogs you have…Test your breeding pair and test the puppies.
It will keep you informed if your dogs will become ill.
It will also tell you if your selling sick puppies.
IMO, in this day of lawsuits, its only smart to be sure you disclose to the buyers of your pups the status of their health.
This fanconis test will do that.
I guess i have my answer to the question you didnt want to answer for me… no the parents weren't tested. I guess you really do get what you pay for. Stacey from sarnia
I'm sorry but I have been nothing but honest with everyone from the start. I told you from the start there were other prospective buyers, and in my email I told you they had not been tested.
The buyers that I chose have experience with basenji's by owning them and understand what it takes to own one. I have apologized multple times for not allowing you to buy one of my pups there is nothing more that I can do.
Basenji experienced people accepted that they were untested?
Regardless, seems like it was probably easier for you to go with the people who weren't giving you grief about that.
