We found that our Lela got used to peeing outside very fast - just over a week if I remember correctly. We started out with lots of newspapers on the floor, making it less every day until one piece remained. I recall only one or two mishaps inside.
So MUCH pee!
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Sigh. Okay. I'll hang in there. Thank God my floors are hardwood and tile {except the office}. Easy clean-up.
DH is in San Diego for two weeks, and it'll be great if Keoki can catch on to this while Daddy is away. We joke that Dh is "Felix Unger", so this pee all over the floor is really hard for him to take. LOL But he grits his teeth and bears it.
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We take him out every 40 minutes or so ; we always make sure he has just peed before bringing him back in. He gets treats and praise for going potty outside.
He doesn't appear to "trail" outside; he stands in one spot and pees, so this "trailing" is just indoors. I'm ready to put a diaper on him and give upOMG! I'm still having problems with Daisy! (almost 5 mos) She goes out after nap, play, eating, every 40 minutes or so. I/we take her out around the yard and perimeter spending plenty of time and opportunity for her to do her business when sometimes she does nothing - UNTIL - she gets in the house - and she is sneaky - because she will do it when our heads are turned! She's quick! We've even put her on the 30 ft. cable and let her run for about 30 mins a few times a day if she hasn't done it with the walk. I am at my wits end about this and my carpet. My entire house is hardwood except the FR which is where she goes! Geesh - I'm also tired of paying for so much paper towel and Nature's Miracle. I keep thinking positive thoughts . . . "It will be any time soon when she's completely trained."
Duke was much easier to train b/c he'd always pee when we were looking and we could catch him to teach him outside. I'm so glad you brought this up. Andrea, thanks for explaining how to train using bells. I thought last week, to go and get some at the craft store, but wasn't sure how to train with them.
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So, we're in it together, Jill. LOL And I'm with you on the paper towels thing! I buy the big ones in the huge pack from Costco and it seems like I'm buying a pack every two weeks, but still having to grab a smaller pack from the grocery store before the two weeks is quite up! {Doesn't help that the kids get carried away with the number of paper towels used per accident. Everyone is afraid of touching the pee. }
The frustrating thing with Keoki is that we NEVER let him back in the house until we SEE him pee, and give praise. Then the little sh*t will come in and pee again within five minutes….sometimes. I just can't see a pattern.
Twice today he peed, just as I was saying, "I'm gonna run Keoki out". Argh, so close!! I am SO DESPERATELY hoping the bells thing works!
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And I'm with you on the paper towels thing! I buy the big ones in the huge pack from Costco and it seems like I'm buying a pack every two weeks, but still having to grab a smaller pack from the grocery store before the two weeks is quite up! {Doesn't help that the kids get carried away with the number of paper towels used per accident. Everyone is afraid of touching the pee.
Same here - Costco's brand is wonderful - but still I'm sick of having to go thru so much. My son is extremely sensitive to pee on anything (yuck!) so he grabs the whole roll too!
Whatever, as long as he's helpful. He is also quick to grab the bottle of Nature's Miracle without asking.The frustrating thing with Keoki is that we NEVER let him back in the house until we SEE him pee, and give praise. Then the little sh*t will come in and pee again within five minutes….sometimes. I just can't see a pattern.
Twice today he peed, just as I was saying, "I'm gonna run Keoki out". Argh, so close!! I am SO DESPERATELY hoping the bells thing works!
Yes, it's SO frustrating. Our situations are so similar. I hope the bells thing works too. Tomorrow morning I'll go buy them and try Andrea's method. I can't wait to close this chapter. If they weren't so darn cute . . .
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Keep in mind that the bells won't work until the dog KNOWS they have to go potty. They might not be there yet…Ariel is just barely there...she still forgets about 25% of the time. Of course it doesn't hurt to train them to ring the bells now, so that when they do mature to the point they know when they need to go out, they are ready to tell you.
I feel your pain...Ariel just peed on the couch a few hours ago
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I feel your pain…Ariel just peed on the couch a few hours ago
Uhhh! Thanks! I feel your pain too. I'll start training her on the bells - not expecting a miracle. Thanks!
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Thank goodness I have a doggy door….. in fact, 2 doggy doors, love it when they run out one and back in the other!!!
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OUr back door is a sliding door and dh doesn't care for the sliding glass dog doors. And frankly, they make me uncomfortable where we live – next to woods w/raccoons in the yard, in broad daylight -- walking up the driveway while the kids are shooting hoops out there!!! . At our old place we had a dog door and had a stray cat that used to come in all the time at night, LOL. I'm afraid the raccoons would come in through a doggy door here.
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We have coons too and way to many, but they don't come in the yard any longer…. and you can always close off the door at night... One of the ones I use is not attached to the slider, so we only (or we used to) take it out when we are out and at night.... don't bother much any more doing it..
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So did we…. until a few years ago! LOL
The dog door would make me uneasy even in daylight because we've had coons in the garage in the afternoon.
Once my dd walked out the front door to the garage and said, "Hey! What are you doing out here?". Took a few steps toward the garage and then rapidly turned and came back to the front door. What she had thought was our gray/black cat in the garage was a raccoon! LOL
They'll sit in the tree right behind our bball hoop and eat the bird seed {they love sunflower seeds, BTW} while the kids are playing ball.Last week there was a huge coyote just outside our back yard fence, at 1 PM. I thought they were nocturnal, also. Now I don't let my kids play in those woods just off our yard anymore w/out big people.
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JazzysMom I fully understand your agony with this issue. Chance is going on 6 mts now and he still has accidents. Not too long ago Alex and I were playing keep away with him and he decided to just stop in the middle and pee while looking at me! GGGGRRRRR. If he gets really excited and does a B-500, expect a pee trail. He just loves to run and jump on our bed and dig the pillows while leaving his mark there too! GGGRRR
Yah..it drives me crazy.
I've talked to a few others and they said its a "boy thing" I guess he just gets too excited and can't control it. Still….I am about to strap a diaper on him cuz I am getting tired of finding stains. -
This is a puppy thing. When puppies get really excited, like during play they sometimes have to pee. When they are very distracted by things like play they forget to ask to go out. When you play with your puppy you should expect that they will need to go out and that they are going to forget to ask so if you have an idea of about how much play they can handle before they will need to pee invite them outside before you hit that time. If you aren't quite sure then start with after 1-2 minutes of hard play invite them outside to pee. Be sure that when they come back in that you continue the play the session so they learn that even if they take a pee break they can come back and to their play session.
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This is a puppy thing. When puppies get really excited, like during play >>they sometimes have to pee. When they are very distracted by things like >>play they forget to ask to go out.
Not always the case. I mean, I know that play time will bring on pee time, and we do take him out after a few minutes of good play.
However, Keoki will often leave his pee trail AFTER coming in AFTER peeing outside! Or when he's only been in from his last pee for less than half an hour. And yes, we always make sure he pees plenty out side before coming in.
The "puppy thing" I can deal with. It's the "random pee thing" that is getting to me. Like Vanessa, I'm about to go for the pampers cuz I'm sick of finding – usually be stepping in -- trails of pee that I didn't see him making because I was cooking, or carrying laundry, talking to the child who'd just brought him in etc.
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I still think you need to check him for a UTI and they are not always that easy to find… The random pee would be a concern to me also... especially after just peeing outside, however, boy dogs are known for "not finishing" and running off to "dribble" more... but what you are saying certainly sounds more then just "dribble"....
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If you are taking him out to pee and then he is coming inside and peeing more, I would definately be looking into something like a UTI. Is Jazzy still in season?
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No, she is not still in season. I guess I was "letting it go" {no pun intended} because that had been brought up, but she's all done and he's still going.
I plan to call the vet tomorrow – I need to call about Gypsy,too because she's been really limping and having a hard time moving. She looks awful and keeps staring at me like she wonders why I'm not helping. It's awful. I have no idea what she did; I see and feel no injury. My poor baby.
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Keep us posted on your gals!
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I'd be interested to see what the vet says. I adopted Tucker from BRAT August of '06. He was almost 4yrs when I got him. For the first 6 months he was peeing, and, initially, it was trails. Trails across the sofa, trails across the floor, and, one trail across the bed. I figured it would stop after a while, but it didn't for a LONG time. On one occasion, I had just taken him out to pee, and he did, and then left him for an HOUR and came back to a puddle in the kitchen. At this point I was convinced that it was separation anxiety or just outright spite for being left alone. I focused on my relationship with the dog and becoming the 'pack leader'. August will mark the year point and he has only peed in the house once for over 3 months now. I don't know if this relates all that much to your issue aside from him being a male and leaving a trail (ha ha, rhymes!). Perhaps once your's is more acceptable to you leaving him alone and knowing you are coming back, he'll stop peeing everywhere. I feel your frustration, trust me, I do. I have a lovely faux microsuede sofa and he couldn't just pee on one cushion. He had to get all three back cushions, which, of course, drained onto the seat cushions, and then down the crack between the chaise and the long sofa soaking the sides of both. Cleanup took DAYS!
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I forgot to mention that his 'alone time' has changed a lot over a progression of time. I felt bad for leaving him alone all day so I let him have the run of the house aside from by bedroom and the spare. He is not destructive at all under normal circumstances. He peed exclusively on soft surfaces. Never the hardwood, always the sofa or carpet but he perferred the sofa. I left my room door open once and he peed on my duvet and subsequently shredded the spot where he peed to try to 'hide the evidence' I suspect. Thankfully, he never shredded my sofa but he did pull up carpet where he peed. First, I confined him to the kitchen but he was still peeing in there. No biggee, but still a pain in the arse because I wanted to get to the bottom of the reasoning behind it. Then I put him on the balcony during the days (my mutt is NOT a jumper nor a climber aside from bed and sofa). He still pees on a pillow I have on the balcony from time to time and I suspect a part of the reason he pees in the kitchen from time to time is because he can't see outside at all.
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I'd be interested to see what the vet says. I adopted Tucker from BRAT August of '06. He was almost 4yrs when I got him. For the first 6 months he was peeing, and, initially, it was trails. Trails across the sofa, trails across the floor, and, one trail across the bed. I figured it would stop after a while, but it didn't for a LONG time. On one occasion, I had just taken him out to pee, and he did, and then left him for an HOUR and came back to a puddle in the kitchen. At this point I was convinced that it was separation anxiety or just outright spite for being left alone. I focused on my relationship with the dog and becoming the 'pack leader'. August will mark the year point and he has only peed in the house once for over 3 months now. I don't know if this relates all that much to your issue aside from him being a male and leaving a trail (ha ha, rhymes!). Perhaps once your's is more acceptable to you leaving him alone and knowing you are coming back, he'll stop peeing everywhere. I feel your frustration, trust me, I do. I have a lovely faux microsuede sofa and he couldn't just pee on one cushion. He had to get all three back cushions, which, of course, drained onto the seat cushions, and then down the crack between the chaise and the long sofa soaking the sides of both. Cleanup took DAYS!
I just read this Tucker - For a 4 year old, it must be extremely frustrating. I've read elsewhere that a vet should check for a Urinary Tract Infection (UTI). I hope you've had him checked out. When you take him outside, reward him for doing his duties there with verbal happy talk. I've said the nastiest things to Daisy in a happy upbeat voice - She thinks I'm happy for her peeing outside (which is good), but I'm actually getting out my frustrations!
Also, try picking up or limiting the water if you're leaving the house. Cleaning up pee every time you turn around is aweful! I can imagine how hard it was to clean your sofa. Poor you! It is hard work to train this important milestone. Keep at it and be consistent with an eye on the clock for timing. I think dogs like consistency with a schedule. They have built in clocks - don't you think?
